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<blockquote data-quote="William Ronald" data-source="post: 2602451" data-attributes="member: 426"><p>I have regularly played clerics and wizards in various editions, and agree that clerics are good for solo adventuring. </p><p></p><p>I think that one problem clerics have is an image problem, as there is a sense that the character has someone to answer to -- a higher power. However, it should be noted that paladins often have a higher power to answer to, and druids must listen to the dictates on nature. (Perhaps the druid who is just adventuring, and doing NOTHING for nature finds a few problems recalling spells. Druids, no less than clerics, have something to answer to -- even if this is the abstract force called Nature. Plus, druids can worship gods of nature as well --- a common enough thing in many campaigns.) Rangers who are spell casters also have some of the same concerns as druids. Having a tie to a higher power, a philosophy, or the force of nature can have advantages, but it will usually entail some responsibility. This responsibility may be part of what keeps some players away from clerics, but there are advantages to this type of connection. </p><p></p><p>One thing that has not been mentioned is that clerics and druids, can do fairly well in roleplaying encounters as diplomacy is a class skill. Druids, by virtue of having more skilll points, can do better. However, both druids and clerics often have some organizations (temple, druid circle) with whom they are associated with, which can give them some degree of influence and access to important people. Mind you, bards and rogues do have more skill points to spend on diplomacy and other social skills, so this is another area where other classes outshine druids and clerics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="William Ronald, post: 2602451, member: 426"] I have regularly played clerics and wizards in various editions, and agree that clerics are good for solo adventuring. I think that one problem clerics have is an image problem, as there is a sense that the character has someone to answer to -- a higher power. However, it should be noted that paladins often have a higher power to answer to, and druids must listen to the dictates on nature. (Perhaps the druid who is just adventuring, and doing NOTHING for nature finds a few problems recalling spells. Druids, no less than clerics, have something to answer to -- even if this is the abstract force called Nature. Plus, druids can worship gods of nature as well --- a common enough thing in many campaigns.) Rangers who are spell casters also have some of the same concerns as druids. Having a tie to a higher power, a philosophy, or the force of nature can have advantages, but it will usually entail some responsibility. This responsibility may be part of what keeps some players away from clerics, but there are advantages to this type of connection. One thing that has not been mentioned is that clerics and druids, can do fairly well in roleplaying encounters as diplomacy is a class skill. Druids, by virtue of having more skilll points, can do better. However, both druids and clerics often have some organizations (temple, druid circle) with whom they are associated with, which can give them some degree of influence and access to important people. Mind you, bards and rogues do have more skill points to spend on diplomacy and other social skills, so this is another area where other classes outshine druids and clerics. [/QUOTE]
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