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<blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 7829119" data-attributes="member: 6777737">That's rather the point they're making. As far as being a weapon goes, a gauntlet is functionally identical to a cestus. Historical gauntlets (e.g., the first two examples <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauntlet_(glove)" target="_blank">here</a>) even had knuckle ridges to make them effective for striking. It's not a mistake that they resemble brass knuckles. Compare that to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_at_Rest" target="_blank">this Hellenistic depiction of the cestus</a>.Rather than saying that a gauntlet counts as a cestus, I think it's more appropriate to say that the cestus was a type of gauntlet that was not intended for protection of the hands.I find that unlikely, given that people have used things as mundane as a roll of quarters to increase the damage they deal with their punches. Gauntlets have been listed as weapons in D&amp;D in the past. I would say the lack of a listing in 5e to be the result of simplification than some desire to correct previous misconceptions. Historically gamewise, unarmed strikes did no damage at all, or did &quot;nonlethal&quot; damage in some editions. Gauntlets, as presented in every edition that I'm aware that they appear in, are presented as dealing 1d3 or 1d2 &quot;lethal&quot; or actual damage.I'm also fairly sure that spiked gauntlets have been presented before. Or, as I've mentioned elsewhere, what about the Battlerager's spiked armor?I don't buy that reasoning. After all, every humanoid can make an unarmed attack which deals 1 + Str mod damage (unless stated otherwise, of course).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bacon Bits, post: 7829119, member: 6777737"] That's rather the point they're making. As far as being a weapon goes, a gauntlet is functionally identical to a cestus. Historical gauntlets (e.g., the first two examples [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauntlet_(glove)']here[/URL]) even had knuckle ridges to make them effective for striking. It's not a mistake that they resemble brass knuckles. Compare that to [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_at_Rest']this Hellenistic depiction of the cestus[/URL]. Rather than saying that a gauntlet counts as a cestus, I think it's more appropriate to say that the cestus was a type of gauntlet that was not intended for protection of the hands. I find that unlikely, given that people have used things as mundane as [I]a roll of quarters [/I]to increase the damage they deal with their punches. Gauntlets have been listed as weapons in D&D in the past. I would say the lack of a listing in 5e to be the result of simplification than some desire to correct previous misconceptions. Historically gamewise, unarmed strikes did no damage at all, or did "nonlethal" damage in some editions. Gauntlets, as presented in every edition that I'm aware that they appear in, are presented as dealing 1d3 or 1d2 "lethal" or actual damage. I'm also fairly sure that spiked gauntlets have been presented before. Or, as I've mentioned elsewhere, what about the Battlerager's spiked armor? I don't buy that reasoning. After all, every humanoid can make an unarmed attack which deals 1 + Str mod damage (unless stated otherwise, of course). [/QUOTE]

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