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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2829599" data-attributes="member: 2011">The time for a Sorcerer to cast a metamagic spell is not a one round spell. It is a full round action. In other words, he uses up a full round action to cast the metamagic spell and it goes off immediately. He can even 5' step with it.PHB II also had a statement in it on how to run Sorcerers that implied that they suck at metamagic cause it takes too long to cast. This implies that the author thought that Sorcerer metamagic spells are like Summon Monster spells in that they take a one round spell.Casting metamagic on the fly is VERY powerful and all you give up for it is a move action. To me, this makes core rule Sorcerers much stronger than core rule Wizards. Sorcerers are only wimpier than Wizards (IMO) if they do not take a lot of metamagic feats.So, maybe the authors thought that Sorcerers were giving up a semi-useful Familiar in order to gain non-one round casting metamagic.But in reality, they are giving up the familiar to gain a move action on rounds they metamagic cast. This is not typically that big of a deal.I do think that allowing Sorcerers to Quicken on the fly is too powerful and I do not think this varient Sorcerer actually gains this (unless the text explicitly states that he does).Regardless of whether the Variant Sorcerer could cast metamagic on the fly as a standard action, the casting time can be considered irrelevant. The casting is still spontaneous, hence, Quicken Spell cannot be applied to the spell. Granted, the reason for this restriction is also listed here, but it does not state that if the reason no longer applies for spontaneous spells, then the restriction no longer applies. A given DM could rule that way though.A Sorcerer (variant or normal) could prepare a Quicken spell ahead of time if he took both the Arcane Preparation and the Quicken Spell feat, but that still limits the Quicken to a number of times per day and the actual spells for which he prepared them. He could not do this on the fly.</blockquote>

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