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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2832387" data-attributes="member: 2011">I do not think that this is the whole point of the rod at all. It is a feature of the rod, but not the intent.That was a rule that was most likely applied to the rods due to game mechanic problems with the concept if the designers did not make it that way. If they did not add a simple rule like this, they instead would have had to add a rule such as preparation casters have to give up the low level spell (e.g. 2nd level Mirror Image) plus the high level spell (e.g. 6th level Chain Lightning) in order to cast the Quicken lower level spell (e.g. Quicken Mirror Image). Or possibly, preparation casters have to have the low level spell (e.g. 2nd level Mirror Image) available plus cast the high level spell (e.g. 6th level Chain Lightning) in order to cast the Quicken lower level spell (e.g. Quicken Mirror Image). Additionally, if they did not add the rule they did, then the 170K GP Rod probably would not exist.I suspect that they needed a simple rule and hence, metamagic rods do not increase the spell slot of the base spell. Otherwise, they would have had to write down paragraphs of explanation and examples on how to use the rod.The whole point of the rod is to give the feat to a caster who does not have the feat. The not increasing the spell level is a secondary (although potent) effect.But, I doubt the designers sat down and said "Hey, let's make an item to give metamagic to casters who do not have it at a cheaper cost!". I suspect they said "Hey, let's make an item to give metamagic to casters who do not have it!" and the cheaper cost was a result of the difficulties of just effectively giving the feat to casters who prepare spells.Granted, the 170K Greater Quicken Metamagic Rod does give abilities beyond what the feat alone can do. This is Epic Spell casting level of magic, but not really relevant as to whether Spontaneous Quicken is too potent or not to give to a character with a single feat (e.g. Quicken Spell).</blockquote>

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