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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 2821236" data-attributes="member: 2067">It's been a long time since I've delved into any 4e threads, but if I did say that, I was totally WRONG. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I'm still not entirely comfortable with it. Like, 25% of the PHBII is useless to those without the Complete series, and I'm reluctant to feed the hungry monster that creates more books than the core as nessecary for a D&D game. I also don't like how they kind of just decided on the classes they were going to support from their other series...I'm sure they did research, but why exclude the Spirit Shaman, or the Healer? Why largely ignore psionics (which is an increasing player in many campaigns, as far as I can see)? Why ignore the Tome of Magic classes?I got lucky because the one class from a book I don't have (the Marshall from the MinisHB) exists in a web preview form, so I can still use it. On the one hand, these classes do deserve to be supplemented. On the other hand, this means that the PHBII can't be fully used with just the core. Reminds me of the 2e "The PC's can go to this town, which is detailed in some FR book, and the fight this monster, which is in one of the Greyhawk compendiums, all for this magic item which is in the Tome of Magic" ever so slightly. Which isn't cool.</blockquote>

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