Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
PHB, MM, DMG covers
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3708406" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>I gotta agree. The PHB does have the dullest art. Ooo! Two adventurers in action poses in the middle of nowhere! And the woman's wearing partially-revealing, barely-protective armor! With a cumbersome-looking, oversized broadsword! And the horned guy is zapping lightning off into <em>nowhere</em>!!! OMG!!!111!!1!</p><p></p><p>Look, a demon charging forward towards <em>nothing</em>, against an empty cavern or vault background! By himself! Oh! And a dragon! Coiling around a crystal ball by itself! In another empty room!!</p><p></p><p>Puh-leaze. They could have at least bothered to try making the covers look exciting and D&D-ish, rather than generic with one or two posing figures.</p><p></p><p>I don't mind WAR's artwork usually, but they really should've gone for a different artist. Plenty of cool artists have already been mentioned in the thread. WAR's more associated with Eberron and Paizo's upcoming Pathfinder material, I think.</p><p></p><p>I don't know if the artwork should be within a frame or not, but they shouldn't have half-arsed it with the two long, dull bars. At least move them to the upper and lower edges, and cropped on the left and right sides, if you're trying to make the artwork prominant. I'm partial to the style of the revised 2E AD&D covers, as that's when I started playing, but if they were going for art-centric it should have at least been closer to the Draconomicon in that regard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The <strong>Player's Handbook</strong> should at least have <strong>FOUR</strong> adventurers on the cover. I mean, it's like a friggin' <em>no-brainer</em>. Even moreso with it being <strong>4</strong>E.</p><p></p><p>There should be a friggin' <em>adventuring party</em> on the cover, not two poor, clueless berks looking like they <em>think</em> they're bad-arse and can handle the dungeon by themselves, with their awkward and more-flashy-than-effective combat gear. The warrior isn't even carrying a longbow on their back.</p><p></p><p>Four adventurers, the fighter, cleric, rogue, and wizard, doing battle with a red dragon, with lots of action apparently going on in the scene.....</p><p>in a cavern with stalactites and stalagmites being smashed and falling from the titanic clash of man and beast.....</p><p>a big honkin' mound of treasure in the background, and cave-tunnels leading out in various directions.....</p><p>three or four half-red-dragon lizardfolk trying to aid their draconic lord and master (and probably sire), maybe getting blasted by the party wizard or flanked by the cleric's summoned angels/archons/whatever and the party's rogue.....</p><p></p><p></p><p>The <strong>Monster Manual</strong> should at least show a menagerie of critters on the cover, not one lone demon, screaming and charging forward like a shmuck ready to die, skull-tipped wand held out to the side like a useless trinket that's no good for blasting stupid adventurers to bits.</p><p></p><p>Maybe instead a mage's menagerie, inside an elaborate, gothic dungeon vault......</p><p>with said mage being an arcanaloth, a fey'ri, or better yet (and more iconically D&D) an <strong>illithid</strong>, pointing down towards the viewer (and the four adventurers at the bottom of the picture), magic sparking to life at its fingertips........</p><p>as some of its monstrous thralls advance on the adventurers......</p><p>orcs, goblins, minotaurs, fire elementals, drow assassins, griffons, dire bears, ogre magi, vrocks, ghasts, monstrous spiders, thri-kreen, a beholder, a young black dragon, a wyrmling green dragon, etc.......</p><p>and other, more benign creatures locked up in cages in the background, some hanging from the ceiling.....</p><p>gold dragon wyrmlings, young bronze dragons, gnomes, hound archons, pixies, grigs, etc......</p><p></p><p></p><p>The <strong>Dungeon Master's Guide</strong> might show two armies clashing, perhaps through a crystal ball with the faint reflection of someone (or some<em>thing</em>) observing the big conflict.....</p><p>an old blue dragon fighting a vicious battle with a silver dragon, claws and breath weapons flying back and forth, each hovering in the air over a battlefield, with other, smaller dragons clashing in the background.......</p><p>and beneath them, on the ground, battle two great armies of men and beasts, artillery and spells......</p><p>a monstrous, chaotic swarm of orcs, goblin worg-riders, black knights astride nightmares, hill giants launching boulders with their bare hands, trolls charging forward and goading the goblins onward, lizardfolk hurling javelins, ogres riding triceratopses, monstrous shamans and witches hurling fire and lightning at the army of the silver dragon, etc......</p><p>and a host of humanoid soldiers marching up beneath their draconic allies, some mounted knights charging in, a unit of pikemen ready to stop the enemy cavalry, elven arcane archers launching a storm of ensorcelled arrows, dwarven halberdiers rushing forward behind the knights, a cadre of elven warmages firing bolts of acid and flame at the opposing trolls, cloud giants retaliating against the enemy hill giants, scattered mages and priests atop shield guardians and hurling Ice Storms and Flame Strikes, a gaggle of gnomes clambering about siege engines that launch a hail of darts, grapeshot, and pots of alchemist's fire, a pack of halfling outriders on warponies trying to execute a flanking maneuver as others bombard the enemy flank with sling bullets, while a small squadron of pegasus-riding elven lancers fly over the halfling outriders for support......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3708406, member: 13966"] I gotta agree. The PHB does have the dullest art. Ooo! Two adventurers in action poses in the middle of nowhere! And the woman's wearing partially-revealing, barely-protective armor! With a cumbersome-looking, oversized broadsword! And the horned guy is zapping lightning off into [I]nowhere[/I]!!! OMG!!!111!!1! Look, a demon charging forward towards [I]nothing[/I], against an empty cavern or vault background! By himself! Oh! And a dragon! Coiling around a crystal ball by itself! In another empty room!! Puh-leaze. They could have at least bothered to try making the covers look exciting and D&D-ish, rather than generic with one or two posing figures. I don't mind WAR's artwork usually, but they really should've gone for a different artist. Plenty of cool artists have already been mentioned in the thread. WAR's more associated with Eberron and Paizo's upcoming Pathfinder material, I think. I don't know if the artwork should be within a frame or not, but they shouldn't have half-arsed it with the two long, dull bars. At least move them to the upper and lower edges, and cropped on the left and right sides, if you're trying to make the artwork prominant. I'm partial to the style of the revised 2E AD&D covers, as that's when I started playing, but if they were going for art-centric it should have at least been closer to the Draconomicon in that regard. The [B]Player's Handbook[/B] should at least have [B]FOUR[/B] adventurers on the cover. I mean, it's like a friggin' [I]no-brainer[/I]. Even moreso with it being [B]4[/B]E. There should be a friggin' [I]adventuring party[/I] on the cover, not two poor, clueless berks looking like they [I]think[/I] they're bad-arse and can handle the dungeon by themselves, with their awkward and more-flashy-than-effective combat gear. The warrior isn't even carrying a longbow on their back. Four adventurers, the fighter, cleric, rogue, and wizard, doing battle with a red dragon, with lots of action apparently going on in the scene..... in a cavern with stalactites and stalagmites being smashed and falling from the titanic clash of man and beast..... a big honkin' mound of treasure in the background, and cave-tunnels leading out in various directions..... three or four half-red-dragon lizardfolk trying to aid their draconic lord and master (and probably sire), maybe getting blasted by the party wizard or flanked by the cleric's summoned angels/archons/whatever and the party's rogue..... The [B]Monster Manual[/B] should at least show a menagerie of critters on the cover, not one lone demon, screaming and charging forward like a shmuck ready to die, skull-tipped wand held out to the side like a useless trinket that's no good for blasting stupid adventurers to bits. Maybe instead a mage's menagerie, inside an elaborate, gothic dungeon vault...... with said mage being an arcanaloth, a fey'ri, or better yet (and more iconically D&D) an [B]illithid[/B], pointing down towards the viewer (and the four adventurers at the bottom of the picture), magic sparking to life at its fingertips........ as some of its monstrous thralls advance on the adventurers...... orcs, goblins, minotaurs, fire elementals, drow assassins, griffons, dire bears, ogre magi, vrocks, ghasts, monstrous spiders, thri-kreen, a beholder, a young black dragon, a wyrmling green dragon, etc....... and other, more benign creatures locked up in cages in the background, some hanging from the ceiling..... gold dragon wyrmlings, young bronze dragons, gnomes, hound archons, pixies, grigs, etc...... The [B]Dungeon Master's Guide[/B] might show two armies clashing, perhaps through a crystal ball with the faint reflection of someone (or some[I]thing[/I]) observing the big conflict..... an old blue dragon fighting a vicious battle with a silver dragon, claws and breath weapons flying back and forth, each hovering in the air over a battlefield, with other, smaller dragons clashing in the background....... and beneath them, on the ground, battle two great armies of men and beasts, artillery and spells...... a monstrous, chaotic swarm of orcs, goblin worg-riders, black knights astride nightmares, hill giants launching boulders with their bare hands, trolls charging forward and goading the goblins onward, lizardfolk hurling javelins, ogres riding triceratopses, monstrous shamans and witches hurling fire and lightning at the army of the silver dragon, etc...... and a host of humanoid soldiers marching up beneath their draconic allies, some mounted knights charging in, a unit of pikemen ready to stop the enemy cavalry, elven arcane archers launching a storm of ensorcelled arrows, dwarven halberdiers rushing forward behind the knights, a cadre of elven warmages firing bolts of acid and flame at the opposing trolls, cloud giants retaliating against the enemy hill giants, scattered mages and priests atop shield guardians and hurling Ice Storms and Flame Strikes, a gaggle of gnomes clambering about siege engines that launch a hail of darts, grapeshot, and pots of alchemist's fire, a pack of halfling outriders on warponies trying to execute a flanking maneuver as others bombard the enemy flank with sling bullets, while a small squadron of pegasus-riding elven lancers fly over the halfling outriders for support...... [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
PHB, MM, DMG covers
Top