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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5230720" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Oddly enough, we just did our first shakedown of 4Ed the evening of the 29th using PHB1 only characters, and our party had a Dwarf Paladin and Dwarf Starlock (me)...so when I started reading this thread, I thought you were our DM! Then I noticed you stated you were all D&D virgins...and that AIN'T us- we're a bunch of grognards.</p><p></p><p>Besides the Dwarf Paladin and Dwarf Starlock, we had an Elven 2WF Ranger, a Half-Elf Rogue, and Human Wizard.</p><p></p><p>Since this was a test run, we were free to change things on the fly, including entire PCs, so some guys brought 2.</p><p></p><p>The Ranger was consistently good. The rest of the party had difficulties getting started, more an artifact of low die rolls- you tend to miss if you can't roll higher than a "5".</p><p></p><p>The Rogue had some issues getting started because he simply couldn't get combat advantage on anyone. Once he did, however...OUCH. He had Eyebite as his Dilettante ability, but it never seemed to work for him.</p><p></p><p>The Paladin did alright, but due to the aforementioned low rolls, he initially did more damage because his marked foes were attacking other party members than he did with his weapons. He also got<strong> immobilized</strong> 3 times in 2 encounters, and the DM's hot hand meant he kept getting tagged for damage. That player switched to a Dwarf Fighter for the remainder of the evening and was much happier.</p><p></p><p>Critters kept saving against nearly everything the Wizard threw except, curiously, his Frost Ray. As a result, he did OK damage and kept <strong>slowing</strong> our foes, keeping us in the fight.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-discussion/278354-new-pc-brainstorming-3.html" target="_blank">My Starlock</a> gave a middling performance, partly due to low rolls (to hit AND damage), partly due to <em>my</em> not tracking my Fate of the Void bonuses accurately. Generally speaking, I had decent chances of affecting the fight at every turn; I just got betrayed by Dame Fortune.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5230720, member: 19675"] Oddly enough, we just did our first shakedown of 4Ed the evening of the 29th using PHB1 only characters, and our party had a Dwarf Paladin and Dwarf Starlock (me)...so when I started reading this thread, I thought you were our DM! Then I noticed you stated you were all D&D virgins...and that AIN'T us- we're a bunch of grognards. Besides the Dwarf Paladin and Dwarf Starlock, we had an Elven 2WF Ranger, a Half-Elf Rogue, and Human Wizard. Since this was a test run, we were free to change things on the fly, including entire PCs, so some guys brought 2. The Ranger was consistently good. The rest of the party had difficulties getting started, more an artifact of low die rolls- you tend to miss if you can't roll higher than a "5". The Rogue had some issues getting started because he simply couldn't get combat advantage on anyone. Once he did, however...OUCH. He had Eyebite as his Dilettante ability, but it never seemed to work for him. The Paladin did alright, but due to the aforementioned low rolls, he initially did more damage because his marked foes were attacking other party members than he did with his weapons. He also got[B] immobilized[/B] 3 times in 2 encounters, and the DM's hot hand meant he kept getting tagged for damage. That player switched to a Dwarf Fighter for the remainder of the evening and was much happier. Critters kept saving against nearly everything the Wizard threw except, curiously, his Frost Ray. As a result, he did OK damage and kept [B]slowing[/B] our foes, keeping us in the fight. [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-discussion/278354-new-pc-brainstorming-3.html"]My Starlock[/URL] gave a middling performance, partly due to low rolls (to hit AND damage), partly due to [I]my[/I] not tracking my Fate of the Void bonuses accurately. Generally speaking, I had decent chances of affecting the fight at every turn; I just got betrayed by Dame Fortune. [/QUOTE]
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