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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 4844325" data-attributes="member: 5889">To me the biggest improvement has been in power design, hallmarked by the Avenger.The Avenger has nearly all effect based dailies, and many all encounter type dailies. To me, these are the dailies that matter, they are the dailies I see everyone take regardless of class.Further, the Avenger even has encounter powers with effects, and fun ones at that. For example, there is a 3rd level power that gives the Avenger phasing as an effect. Its an &quot;attack power&quot; but because of its effect, you can easily use it out of a combat. To me, that is great power design, I really hope to see more of it.I think aftereffects were used much better to buff up many save ends powers. Save ends often don't last long enough (without item/orb buffs) to make them worth it, but aftereffects can completely change that dynamic.The only place I feel the phb2 is strictly superior is the sorcerer vs the warlock. I've read the debates, but every time I read the sorcerer I see a better warlock. I have seen two warlocks played in games, and both have decided to switch characters.I'll also pipe in that while I think the warden is better than the paladin (which I'm in the camp that says it definitely needs a boost in DP) it is certainly not better than the fighter.Finally, just to throw a little more wood on the fire, while PHB2 has its stars, none of their classes (not even the mighty barbarian) can top the sheer raw power of the archer ranger. It is to me the most powerful class in the game (and also the most boring).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 4844325, member: 5889"] To me the biggest improvement has been in power design, hallmarked by the Avenger. The Avenger has nearly all effect based dailies, and many all encounter type dailies. To me, these are the dailies that matter, they are the dailies I see everyone take regardless of class. Further, the Avenger even has encounter powers with effects, and fun ones at that. For example, there is a 3rd level power that gives the Avenger phasing as an effect. Its an "attack power" but because of its effect, you can easily use it out of a combat. To me, that is great power design, I really hope to see more of it. I think aftereffects were used much better to buff up many save ends powers. Save ends often don't last long enough (without item/orb buffs) to make them worth it, but aftereffects can completely change that dynamic. The only place I feel the phb2 is strictly superior is the sorcerer vs the warlock. I've read the debates, but every time I read the sorcerer I see a better warlock. I have seen two warlocks played in games, and both have decided to switch characters. I'll also pipe in that while I think the warden is better than the paladin (which I'm in the camp that says it definitely needs a boost in DP) it is certainly not better than the fighter. Finally, just to throw a little more wood on the fire, while PHB2 has its stars, none of their classes (not even the mighty barbarian) can top the sheer raw power of the archer ranger. It is to me the most powerful class in the game (and also the most boring). [/QUOTE]

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