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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 4852637" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>It depends what you consider striker damage. My fighter consistently gets near-striker damage while having a much better AC, more healing surges, and the ability to mark and get free attacks in.</p><p></p><p>I've actually gotten a couple of Rogue players annoyed at me for doing so much damage.</p><p></p><p>As an example, I use a Greatspear. I chose the +1 to hit. I, at 10th level have +17 to hit(+19 with CA, which I have regularly) for 1d10+11 damage. 1d10+20 damage when I use my Bloodclaw weapon. Which averages out to 16.5 damage or 25.5 damage.</p><p></p><p>A rogue who uses a Rapier who started with a 17 Dex(what I started with in Str) and also had a +3 Bloodclaw Rapier, Iron Armbands of Power, and the most of the same feats as me would have +16 to hit for 1d6+10 on non-sneak attacks. Which averages out to 13.5 damage. Below my attacks. On sneak attacks, he likely has +18 to hit for 1d6+10+2d8. Which averages out to 22.5 damage(or 28.5 with the Bloodclaw weapon).</p><p></p><p>It's more damage, that's for sure. But I use my 2[w] attacks more than the Rogues seem to. It could be a lack of good encounter powers or the fact that they don't get much more damage out of them. Either way, on a 2[w] attack, I do an average of 22 damage and they do an average of 26(or 31 vs 32 with Bloodclaw active). Pretty comparable, I'd say. And normally I have +1 more to hit, so it might give me a slight edge.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, if he uses a dagger to get the same bonus to hit as me, then the damage is: 1[w]: 21.5, 2[w]: 24, which is even closer to my damage. Up by a couple of points only. And in one corner case(2[w] attacks while using Bloodclaw), I'm a point higher than him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 4852637, member: 5143"] It depends what you consider striker damage. My fighter consistently gets near-striker damage while having a much better AC, more healing surges, and the ability to mark and get free attacks in. I've actually gotten a couple of Rogue players annoyed at me for doing so much damage. As an example, I use a Greatspear. I chose the +1 to hit. I, at 10th level have +17 to hit(+19 with CA, which I have regularly) for 1d10+11 damage. 1d10+20 damage when I use my Bloodclaw weapon. Which averages out to 16.5 damage or 25.5 damage. A rogue who uses a Rapier who started with a 17 Dex(what I started with in Str) and also had a +3 Bloodclaw Rapier, Iron Armbands of Power, and the most of the same feats as me would have +16 to hit for 1d6+10 on non-sneak attacks. Which averages out to 13.5 damage. Below my attacks. On sneak attacks, he likely has +18 to hit for 1d6+10+2d8. Which averages out to 22.5 damage(or 28.5 with the Bloodclaw weapon). It's more damage, that's for sure. But I use my 2[w] attacks more than the Rogues seem to. It could be a lack of good encounter powers or the fact that they don't get much more damage out of them. Either way, on a 2[w] attack, I do an average of 22 damage and they do an average of 26(or 31 vs 32 with Bloodclaw active). Pretty comparable, I'd say. And normally I have +1 more to hit, so it might give me a slight edge. On the other hand, if he uses a dagger to get the same bonus to hit as me, then the damage is: 1[w]: 21.5, 2[w]: 24, which is even closer to my damage. Up by a couple of points only. And in one corner case(2[w] attacks while using Bloodclaw), I'm a point higher than him. [/QUOTE]
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