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<blockquote data-quote="Moonsword" data-source="post: 4853036" data-attributes="member: 7174"><p>Among other things? Because some of us like to make them remember that what they're doing is <em>dangerous</em>. Adventurers are rare for two reasons. First, not many people are crazy enough to do it. Second, of those that are, the life expectancy is <em>not long</em>. Most adventurers, the vast majority, don't die in bed, and they don't die of old age. They die in some godforsaken hole somewhere, or out in the woods, or on some twisted, rather loose approximation of reality that's two steps outside of what the rest of us call the world. The source material makes that clear, and I don't have an issue with enforcing that to a reasonable degree. The players are exceptions in some ways, certainly, and they are the heart of the campaign, but if you think "sitting at the table" is enough to ascend to a supernal destiny walking among the gods or mastering every secret of magic, you clearly aren't playing enough cards. You want to win, you have to risk something, and in D&D, that's your continued existence on this mortal coil... at a minimum.</p><p></p><p>Will I kill characters? If they're doing something absolutely stupid and mortally dangerous (and they get verbally warned that it's not a good idea before I take the gloves off!), or it's dramatically appropriate, I'll kill them in a heartbeat. The latter can even have player approval when it's handled correctly. I'm not out to rack up a body count, despite my occasionally acting that way for my own amusement, but if you earn being put six feet under, I've got the shovel. Now, I may intervene when the dice have just decided they simply don't like you (although I'm also likely to make you earn <em>that</em>, too - never overlook the chance to allow roleplaying or letting someone shine when opportunity knocks!), and I almost certainly won't let a bunch of scrub goblins wipe the floor with people. But if you earn it, it's time to start filling out a new sheet.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not really a milestone, but I see your point there. I don't really like that house rule and wouldn't use it personally. That said, for some groups, it might work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Moonsword, post: 4853036, member: 7174"] Among other things? Because some of us like to make them remember that what they're doing is [i]dangerous[/i]. Adventurers are rare for two reasons. First, not many people are crazy enough to do it. Second, of those that are, the life expectancy is [i]not long[/i]. Most adventurers, the vast majority, don't die in bed, and they don't die of old age. They die in some godforsaken hole somewhere, or out in the woods, or on some twisted, rather loose approximation of reality that's two steps outside of what the rest of us call the world. The source material makes that clear, and I don't have an issue with enforcing that to a reasonable degree. The players are exceptions in some ways, certainly, and they are the heart of the campaign, but if you think "sitting at the table" is enough to ascend to a supernal destiny walking among the gods or mastering every secret of magic, you clearly aren't playing enough cards. You want to win, you have to risk something, and in D&D, that's your continued existence on this mortal coil... at a minimum. Will I kill characters? If they're doing something absolutely stupid and mortally dangerous (and they get verbally warned that it's not a good idea before I take the gloves off!), or it's dramatically appropriate, I'll kill them in a heartbeat. The latter can even have player approval when it's handled correctly. I'm not out to rack up a body count, despite my occasionally acting that way for my own amusement, but if you earn being put six feet under, I've got the shovel. Now, I may intervene when the dice have just decided they simply don't like you (although I'm also likely to make you earn [i]that[/i], too - never overlook the chance to allow roleplaying or letting someone shine when opportunity knocks!), and I almost certainly won't let a bunch of scrub goblins wipe the floor with people. But if you earn it, it's time to start filling out a new sheet. That's not really a milestone, but I see your point there. I don't really like that house rule and wouldn't use it personally. That said, for some groups, it might work. [/QUOTE]
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