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<blockquote data-quote="DaveMage" data-source="post: 4747292" data-attributes="member: 10447"><p>Admittedly, not much, no. It was at #12 on amazon 3 weeks ago. Now it's #229. It was #28 on the USA Today's Top 150 the week of its relaese. The next week, it was gone from the Top 150. </p><p></p><p>It's "sold out", but have you heard of a 2nd print run? If it's sold out and demand is great, shouldn't there be another print run? (And there might be, but there hasn't been a report of one - unlike when the first run of the 4E core books sold out. We heard about the 2nd print run very quickly - and under the circumstances, isn't that something WotC would want publicised?)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Only the fast disappearance from the "bestseller lists" is the clue that it may be doing (relatively) poorly. If it continued to be on the lists, rather than be a one-week wonder, things might be different. It's my understanding that The USA Today list is the most telling because it is based on actual reports of sales of the product to *consumers* for that particular week. (Unlike other lists which may be considering a greater time period or focusing on orders rather than purchases by end users.)</p><p></p><p>Now, granted "relatively poorly" sales figures in this context would likely be the BEST EVER sales figures for most of the 3pps around here, so it's all relative. However, remember that WotC is expecting this model to sustain them throughout the life of the edition. Are the sales numbers sufficient to do that? (That's the real question.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DaveMage, post: 4747292, member: 10447"] Admittedly, not much, no. It was at #12 on amazon 3 weeks ago. Now it's #229. It was #28 on the USA Today's Top 150 the week of its relaese. The next week, it was gone from the Top 150. It's "sold out", but have you heard of a 2nd print run? If it's sold out and demand is great, shouldn't there be another print run? (And there might be, but there hasn't been a report of one - unlike when the first run of the 4E core books sold out. We heard about the 2nd print run very quickly - and under the circumstances, isn't that something WotC would want publicised?) Only the fast disappearance from the "bestseller lists" is the clue that it may be doing (relatively) poorly. If it continued to be on the lists, rather than be a one-week wonder, things might be different. It's my understanding that The USA Today list is the most telling because it is based on actual reports of sales of the product to *consumers* for that particular week. (Unlike other lists which may be considering a greater time period or focusing on orders rather than purchases by end users.) Now, granted "relatively poorly" sales figures in this context would likely be the BEST EVER sales figures for most of the 3pps around here, so it's all relative. However, remember that WotC is expecting this model to sustain them throughout the life of the edition. Are the sales numbers sufficient to do that? (That's the real question.) [/QUOTE]
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