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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 3055719" data-attributes="member: 7635">I had a discussion not too long ago about an encounter with a knight and some of his allies turning a vrock into hamburger. Once we found out all the things we did wrong (and they were plentiful)  but the end result (for the DM remained) that the knight was too MMORPG for his game.So its a phenomenon that some groups experience, but I think this depends highly on a.) your opinions of MMORPGs and b.) Your willingness to accept new character mechanics in game (said DM: low on both). Like some of the other innovative classes (warlock, scout, etc) knight changes the dynamic of the game and that doesn't work with everyone. However, in the right group, the class adds a wonderful dynamic of battlefield control and tanking the fighter doesn't.</blockquote>