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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 5017839" data-attributes="member: 58197">I point you to my own response earlier in this thread:If WotC released a "legionary" class, I'd have no questions about what it was. Clearly it's a martial class with some kind of formation fighting bonus. Either a defender or a leader, emphasizes professional combat training and military discipline, probably has a combination of melee and short-ranged maneuvers. At least one variant will certainly be proficient in javelin, short sword, and heavy shield. The word "legionary" describes a real-world profession that converts reasonably well to an adventuring context, so I know instantly what to expect.If WotC released a "philosopher" class, I might scratch my head a little wondering what their adventuring shtick was - although if it came out in the company of classes like monk and samurai, I think I'd make the connection - but I'd have at least a vague idea what it was about. I know what a philosopher is in real life."Seeker" is pushing it. "Seeker" is not a profession per se, and while the term "a seeker" does have a real-life meaning, it's normally attached to another concept - "a seeker of [something]." Still, the word is used often enough in a fantasy context to suggest some possible interpretations... one who quests, one who searches for transcendent meaning, a wandering friar or knight-errant on a mission. (The knight-errant thing isn't too far from the actual class concept. I'd have expected it to be a divine class, but primal works... I guess.)With "ardent," I had absolutely no clue. There's no such thing as "an ardent" in real life, and the word is so seldom used that I didn't even connect it to the adjective meaning when I saw it used as a noun - it just looked like a made-up word. Even if I had made the connection to the adjective, it wouldn't have conveyed much.Not a reasonable comparison. The word "marine" has been a shorthand for "marine soldier" for centuries. It has long since passed into common usage as a noun. The Marine Corps has likewise evolved from its naval roots.Name the class "ardent philosopher," then call back in 50 years. If it's still in widespread use in 10E, we'll shorten it to "ardent."While "bat" is technically not an adjective, the use of a noun in a descriptive capacity is common enough to pass muster. "The bat-man" thus makes sense when describing a man with attributes of a bat, kinda like "sword-mage" describes a mage who wields a sword.It's about usage, not the dictionary. Although I think there actually is a grammatical term for using a noun as a descriptor.</blockquote>

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