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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7869806" data-attributes="member: 6987520">I just find it odd that an ability suffers if there is any light present, but that might be the idea.Consider this:The party is in absolute darkness underground. The half-orc can see via DV, and the warlock via DS. No one else can see, so the party casts Light.Now, all the part can see in the bright light (20') and has disadvantage in the dim light (21-40').The half-orc can see up to 40' as bright light since dim light is bright for DV, and as dim light (41-60'), reaching into the darkness.The warlock can see in the bright light (20') of the spell, has dim light (21-40') like most of the party, but then sees as bright light (41-120') into the darkness beyond.Without the light, the warlock counts all 120' as bright light. So, the warlock actually sees better in complete darkness than if there is any light because of the dim light the light source always creates.Maybe the intent was that the light source interferes with DS, creating a region of "haze" (i.e. dim light) between the normal bright light from the light source and the enhanced vision of the DS?That's about the only way I could see DS helping with darkness, but not with dim light. "Light" actually interferes with DS! Sort of makes sense...</blockquote>