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<blockquote data-quote="Carpe DM" data-source="post: 4513965" data-attributes="member: 677">Folks:I need real rules wonks on this one.&nbsp; Here's the question.&nbsp; Can a Psion with Metamorphosis turn into a Phasm, and then use Metamorphic Transfer to use that Phasm's ability to turn into, oh, say, a Pit Fiend?I know the resulting Pit Fiend won't have many of the abilities of the real deal, but really, the physical stats + the grapple / constrict + the unspeakable armorclass make this one a ridiculous outcome for a 4th level psionic ability.I just want to make sure this works.&nbsp; For one thing, if a Phasm really can do this, how in **** can it be CR 7?&nbsp; That just does not make sense to me. I feel like I'm missing something, probably about the Phasm's power.So, I ask your help for any information on how this set of powers (metamorphosis, metamorphic transfer, Phasm, Alternate form) can create this colossal combination.&nbsp; Please, no &quot;rule-zero&quot; advice, or &quot;the PC must have encountered it first&quot; advice.&nbsp; I'm a lawful neutral GM, and prefer to run the rules as written insofar as possible.Links to prior discussions of this are particularly welcome.very best,-Carpe</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Carpe DM, post: 4513965, member: 677"] Folks: I need real rules wonks on this one. Here's the question. Can a Psion with Metamorphosis turn into a Phasm, and then use Metamorphic Transfer to use that Phasm's ability to turn into, oh, say, a Pit Fiend? I know the resulting Pit Fiend won't have many of the abilities of the real deal, but really, the physical stats + the grapple / constrict + the unspeakable armorclass make this one a ridiculous outcome for a 4th level psionic ability. I just want to make sure this works. For one thing, if a Phasm really can do this, how in **** can it be CR 7? That just does not make sense to me. I feel like I'm missing something, probably about the Phasm's power. So, I ask your help for any information on how this set of powers (metamorphosis, metamorphic transfer, Phasm, Alternate form) can create this colossal combination. Please, no "rule-zero" advice, or "the PC must have encountered it first" advice. I'm a lawful neutral GM, and prefer to run the rules as written insofar as possible. Links to prior discussions of this are particularly welcome. very best, -Carpe [/QUOTE]

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