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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8990336" data-attributes="member: 18">There wasn't a working version, that's correct.After Challenger they considered it as one of the potential options, but there was no good way to make it work.As for Section 31, that show needs to DIAF, frankly.It's the opposite of what Star Trek needs at this point. It's the opposite of the tone and point of Star Trek. The only way I could see it working is if it rapidly became about taking down Section 31, once and for all. Unfortunately it seems like a significant minority of the writers are confused as hell and think Section 31 is Starfleet's equivalent of The Culture's "Contact", but it absolutely is not. Contact is much more straightforward and isn't self-interested, nor gleefully evil, whereas Section 31 is absolutely both. Nor does Contact act unless absolutely necessary, and usually not against The Culture itself, but rather external entities interacting with The Culture. Whereas Section 31 continually attempts to manipulate Starfleet and the Federation, even there are no exigent circumstances, and is quite happy to act against Starfleet or the Federation if it's beneficial to Section 31's goals - which seem nebulous at best. On top of all this, Section 31 seems to have a "mad science" division and to continually work on "mad science" stuff as a major part of its work, whereas Contact just does not. Period. Thus in practice Contact is aligned with Starfleet Intelligence, whereas Section 31 is more aligned with the CIA, particularly the CIA at its worst in the 1950s through 1980s. We don't need a show de facto glorifying the goddamn 20th century CIA, that was one of the scummiest intelligence organisations the West has ever produced, which is saying something. We double don't need it at the expense of Star Trek, which hard-opposed those kind of shenanigans.</blockquote>

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