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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8991205" data-attributes="member: 18">What are you talking about? They're already in Star Trek. So why are you asking if they're plausible?What I'm saying is that there's no room in Star Trek for portraying them as the "good guys". No good purpose to a show glorifying horrible scumbags like the person who created these super-Changelings through vile torture - that's like making a show glorifying Dr Mengele or Unit 731.The speech you quoted from an extremely right-wing, arguably even crypto-fascist movie, and is horrific macho "evil is good" "Hard Men Making Hard Decisions" nonsense which is directly opposed to Star Trek's intentional focus on honestly approaching complex moral decisions. The Hard Men Making Hard Decisions trope is directly opposed to that, because instead of honestly examining such decisions, it always, without fail, goes with the most macho and nasty decision as the right one. Torture is always right. Lying is always right. Brutality is always right. Manipulating people is always right. And so on. There's no questions - there's no room for such questions when Hard Men Make Hard Decisions because they're never actually hard - they're easy - that's part of the trope.(What's extra weird about Gordon's little rant is that Batman hasn't actually done that in those three movies - he's actually been fairly moral and non-murderous. He hasn't dipped his hands in filth. But that further illustrates the extreme politics of the movie.)</blockquote>

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