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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8991866" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Oh for sure.</p><p></p><p>It was a bizarre pivot from the high-quality if very different styles of Batman of the previous two movies into a bizarrely and unnecessarily political and staunchly right-wing (if confused) take, which was almost entirely from the speeches characters gave, not what happened in the movie (the main exception being the magical cops, which was one of the most risible scenes in cinematic history - certainly from a major and skilled director), combined with the movie just... not being very good was kind of horrifying. Absolutely destroyed my faith in Nolan, who always previously seemed "Centrist Dad", politics-wise (i.e. largely inoffensive). As I said, the most bizarre thing about Gordon's speech is that Batman absolutely wasn't acting like that - he wasn't sticking his hands in filth - if anything, he was acting more like a holy martyr.</p><p></p><p>Of course his most recent film's main crime was nothing at all like that, just absolutely dire sound mixing combined with a plot that was both barely coherent and needlessly complex in way that had essentially nothing interesting or clever to say. I remember he claimed the dire sound mixing was to try and keep audiences watching, but I don't buy it - and as some with ADHD (which in many people causes it to be harder to pick out voices from background noise) it was incredibly awful.</p><p></p><p>There's a really funny Pitch Meeting about it:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]t23ZEKqGHzs[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8991866, member: 18"] Oh for sure. It was a bizarre pivot from the high-quality if very different styles of Batman of the previous two movies into a bizarrely and unnecessarily political and staunchly right-wing (if confused) take, which was almost entirely from the speeches characters gave, not what happened in the movie (the main exception being the magical cops, which was one of the most risible scenes in cinematic history - certainly from a major and skilled director), combined with the movie just... not being very good was kind of horrifying. Absolutely destroyed my faith in Nolan, who always previously seemed "Centrist Dad", politics-wise (i.e. largely inoffensive). As I said, the most bizarre thing about Gordon's speech is that Batman absolutely wasn't acting like that - he wasn't sticking his hands in filth - if anything, he was acting more like a holy martyr. Of course his most recent film's main crime was nothing at all like that, just absolutely dire sound mixing combined with a plot that was both barely coherent and needlessly complex in way that had essentially nothing interesting or clever to say. I remember he claimed the dire sound mixing was to try and keep audiences watching, but I don't buy it - and as some with ADHD (which in many people causes it to be harder to pick out voices from background noise) it was incredibly awful. There's a really funny Pitch Meeting about it: [MEDIA=youtube]t23ZEKqGHzs[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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