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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9013170" data-attributes="member: 18">I don't even need to search my feelings, what you're saying is definitely true, yeah. But then the fan service went too far... (c.f. the last episode).Quantum Leap is what made him famous.That's the issue Bakula had - back in the 60s through 90s, being in a big hit/iconic genre show (cop, SF, whatever) could, unless you got kind of lucky or had done a ton of work before it, really just end your career. It still seems to happen a bit - but I don't think anywhere near as badly. He seems to have been doomed to appear in TV movies endlessly until ENT.But yeah he wasn't anywhere near as lively or diverting as Archer as he was as Sam Beckett in Quantum Leap. I put a lot of that on the writers not really having much of a conception for the character nor any key conflicts or relationships with other officers though. I haven't seen his other big lead role in NCIS: New Orleans so I can't comment on that, but it feels like all NCIS lead roles are kind of more about a vibe than really acting!God I kind of wonder what it would be like to rewatch Quantum Leap now. It was already a show that, as a kid in the '80s and 90s, seemed focused on the past - mainly the '60s. That's got to be a real trip now.Yup. Like, I could tell you more about the apparent personalities of some one-off or rarely-seen TOS characters than I could any ENT character who wasn't Phlox.I mean, shall I try? Character and personality.Archer - His personality is "mild-mannered captain", that is his entire personality. I guess maybe he's a bit distractible?T'Pol - Her personality is "generic vulcan". I wish I had anything to add to that. Being hot is not a personality trait unless you really lean into it and she didn't.Reed - He does have slightly more personality because has this massive "up to no good" vibe and generally seems pretty sketchy for a security officer (Yar had some of this vibe too), but it's still not much.Mayweather - His personality is "also on the bridge".Sato - Her personality is "anxious and also on the bridge". I guess at least there's a personality descriptor there."Trip" - His personality is "dude who keeps ending up at sexual harassment and anger management trainings and doesn't learn anything and yet doesn't suffer any consequences for reasons".What's sad is that these lot make VOY's crew look extremely well-developed by comparison. I mean, were they as annoying as VOY's crew? No. The lack of Neelix, Paris, Chakotay, and Torres means that I didn't actively want to turn the show off because the characters are so irritating, but at least I remembered those characters, and Seven of Nine and Emergency Medical Hologram were genuinely good characters, and Janeway eventually became good. Tuvok was absolutely fine too and not just "generic vulcan" (albeit a lot of that was in Tim Russ' subtle acting, particularly eyebrow-acting, but still! Good job Tim!).Indeed, and that's why I saw it as the obvious next show (rather than an Star Fleet academy show which most people expected).Annnnnnnnnnnd they just basically did VOY stuff.I didn't hate it, but I felt like it was missing some element of spin or verve that would take it to an actually-interesting place, aesthetically. Also the NX-01 looked just way too much like later ships. It was a HUNDRED YEARS before Kirk, even, and the ship looked like it was maybe the previous generation from the Constitution class, more like 20 years before. I mean, compare ships from 1923 and 2023, and whilst general configurations may be somewhat similar, the specifics and styling and surfaces and stuff are just hugely different.</blockquote>

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