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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 7863041" data-attributes="member: 6750235">Minor correction:&nbsp; 3.5 rangers and bards received 6 skill points per level.&nbsp; 3.0 rangers and bards received 4 skill points per level.&nbsp; 3.5 druids and barbarians received 4 skill points per level to fall more in line with a combat / support comparison.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Yeah, warlords had a lot of tactical movement powers so when 5e drastically cut back on bonuses to movement or actions that kind of killed a lot of the powers.&nbsp; Commander's strike was an at-will power that granted an ally a basic melee attack and added the warlord's INT bonus to the attack as one of the examples given above.&nbsp; That did make it from 4e into 5e as a battle master maneuver, and that's what it looks like in 5e terms after modifying it to better fit 5e action economy.&nbsp; The 4e version was a lot more prominent.&nbsp; The 5e version costs one attack and the bonus action so it so it's a lot more situational, but the fighter still gets other attacks at higher levels.This is from page 144 of the 4e PHB:[ATTACH=full]116222[/ATTACH]The battle master inherited the tactical part of the 4e warlord.&nbsp; Warlord style battle master maneuvers: commander's strike, distracting strike, maneuvering attack, rally.&nbsp; Spend feats on healer and/or inspiring leader and that's the 5e tactical style warlord as presented.&nbsp; Nowhere near 4e but part of that is the 5e cut back in handing out bonus movement and actions so that was it.The valor bard covers much of the 4e warlord by having the inspirational part.&nbsp; Bardic inspiration and combat inspiration cover that and are dedicated to other party members (warlords give out benefits to others).&nbsp; The valor bard with medium armor and shield, d8 hit points, and the inspiration abilities lines up very well with the 4e warlord.&nbsp; Bards have the benefit of healing in their spells to cover that aspect.&nbsp; But they are spell casters instead of a pure martial class.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />People who want a warlord with tactical and inspirational powers multiclass.&nbsp; Or homebrew it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 7863041, member: 6750235"] Minor correction: 3.5 rangers and bards received 6 skill points per level. 3.0 rangers and bards received 4 skill points per level. 3.5 druids and barbarians received 4 skill points per level to fall more in line with a combat / support comparison. ;) Yeah, warlords had a lot of tactical movement powers so when 5e drastically cut back on bonuses to movement or actions that kind of killed a lot of the powers. [I]Commander's strike[/I] was an at-will power that granted an ally a basic melee attack and added the warlord's INT bonus to the attack as one of the examples given above. That did make it from 4e into 5e as a battle master maneuver, and that's what it looks like in 5e terms after modifying it to better fit 5e action economy. The 4e version was a lot more prominent. The 5e version costs one attack and the bonus action so it so it's a lot more situational, but the fighter still gets other attacks at higher levels. This is from page 144 of the 4e PHB: [ATTACH type="full"]116222[/ATTACH] The battle master inherited the tactical part of the 4e warlord. Warlord style battle master maneuvers: [I]commander's strike, distracting strike, maneuvering attack, rally. [/I]Spend feats on [I]healer[/I] and/or [I]inspiring leader[/I] and that's the 5e tactical style warlord as presented. Nowhere near 4e but part of that is the 5e cut back in handing out bonus movement and actions so that was it. The valor bard covers much of the 4e warlord by having the inspirational part. [I]Bardic inspiration[/I] and [I]combat inspiration[/I] cover that and are dedicated to other party members (warlords give out benefits to others). The valor bard with medium armor and shield, d8 hit points, and the inspiration abilities lines up very well with the 4e warlord. Bards have the benefit of healing in their spells to cover that aspect. But they are spell casters instead of a pure martial class. ;) People who want a warlord with tactical and inspirational powers multiclass. Or homebrew it. [/QUOTE]

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