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Picking up a weapon from the ground . . . how fast? Draws AoO?
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<blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 18118" data-attributes="member: 1279"><p>Just wanted to see how people play the following situation:</p><p></p><p>Ugluk the Orc is caught in a Sleep spell. Ugluk go to sleep, but is kicked awake by a buddy the same round. Unfortunately, Ugluk is standing 5' away from a melee opponent. </p><p></p><p>Which is correct? (Perhaps) alternatively, which way do you play it?</p><p></p><p>1) Ugluk stands, grabs his (likely dropped) weapon as he stands, and can attack the same round. The stand/grabbed dropped weapon are combined as a MEA that does not draw an AoO, as grabbing the weapon is kind of like drawing it. </p><p></p><p>--This is almost certainly way too generous to Ugluk</p><p></p><p></p><p>2) Ugluk stands, grabs his (likely dropped) weapon as he stands, and can attack the same round. Grabbing the dropped weapon provokes an AoO because it's like "retrieving a stored item". If Ugluk had Quick Draw, it wouldn't do him any good. </p><p></p><p>--This is definitely worse for Ugluk, but take a look at the next one!</p><p></p><p>3) Ugluk stands (taking a Move-Equiv to do so) and grabs his dropped weapon (taking his SECOND Move-Equiv action). He can't attack this round. Plus, he may well have just drawn an AoO, depending on whether grabbing the weapon from the ground was more like "drawing a weapon" or "retriving a stored item". </p><p></p><p></p><p>So the two main questions are:</p><p></p><p>A) Can you combine grabbing the weapon with standing from prone? Technically, according to the rules, you cannot, as you can draw a weapon for free as part of a normal move, and not as part of a move-equivalent. </p><p></p><p>B) Is grabbing the weapon going to draw an AoO? </p><p></p><p>I think "by the rules" Ugluk is incredibly screwed, but that very well may be that's the way it's supposed to be. Just curious as to how others interpret it/play it. </p><p></p><p>Thanks much!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Forrester, post: 18118, member: 1279"] Just wanted to see how people play the following situation: Ugluk the Orc is caught in a Sleep spell. Ugluk go to sleep, but is kicked awake by a buddy the same round. Unfortunately, Ugluk is standing 5' away from a melee opponent. Which is correct? (Perhaps) alternatively, which way do you play it? 1) Ugluk stands, grabs his (likely dropped) weapon as he stands, and can attack the same round. The stand/grabbed dropped weapon are combined as a MEA that does not draw an AoO, as grabbing the weapon is kind of like drawing it. --This is almost certainly way too generous to Ugluk 2) Ugluk stands, grabs his (likely dropped) weapon as he stands, and can attack the same round. Grabbing the dropped weapon provokes an AoO because it's like "retrieving a stored item". If Ugluk had Quick Draw, it wouldn't do him any good. --This is definitely worse for Ugluk, but take a look at the next one! 3) Ugluk stands (taking a Move-Equiv to do so) and grabs his dropped weapon (taking his SECOND Move-Equiv action). He can't attack this round. Plus, he may well have just drawn an AoO, depending on whether grabbing the weapon from the ground was more like "drawing a weapon" or "retriving a stored item". So the two main questions are: A) Can you combine grabbing the weapon with standing from prone? Technically, according to the rules, you cannot, as you can draw a weapon for free as part of a normal move, and not as part of a move-equivalent. B) Is grabbing the weapon going to draw an AoO? I think "by the rules" Ugluk is incredibly screwed, but that very well may be that's the way it's supposed to be. Just curious as to how others interpret it/play it. Thanks much! [/QUOTE]
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