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<blockquote data-quote="cignus_pfaccari" data-source="post: 5703910" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>Had a thought about action economy, that if a character had the ability to take a lot of Immediate action attacks, that would increase damage output considerably, since one could then use At-Wills or even basic attacks on one's standard actions to keep up the output. Looking around, the Insightful Warlord seems to be the most obvious build for this, and, well, I already have a warlord in our Dark Sun game, so that seemed like a good match.</p><p></p><p>So, chose Goliath for my race, due to the Str/Wis combo, and I always had a soft spot for them from 3.5 (being the only "Races of..." race that actually stuck). The bard and warlock are more social-skillsy, but a party can always use more Perception (and I took Detective so I could get Perception and Insight in-class). I'd actually kind of prefer a minotaur, but those are much less common in Dark Sun, and I just got done playing one.</p><p></p><p>Also, Goliath allows me to take Goliath Greatweapon Prowess, which encourages martial weapon use. I'll be making a lot more low-[W] attacks, so it'll be just easier and save a feat. Needing a reach weapon (as the party is melee-heavy), I can use a Longspear, which in turn encourages Spear Expertise, which in turn encourages charging...which actually, now that I thought about it, is a perfectly good way to spend my turn's standard action, assuming we're not in tunnels, especially using a Vanguard spear and the Horned Helm, that turns into 2d8+1d6+15 on a charge hit.</p><p></p><p>I considered a Gouge, and in fact if this were going to be a slayer or barbarian that's what I'd go with, but Reach is more important to me than having higher damage.</p><p></p><p>Thoughts? Anything that I'm obviously missing? Help pimp this thought experiment-warlord!</p><p></p><p>====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======</p><p>Thotham, level 12</p><p>Goliath, Warlord (Marshal), White Raven</p><p>Build: Insightful Warlord</p><p>Warlord Option: Combat Leader</p><p>Commanding Presence Option: Insightful Presence</p><p>Dark Sun</p><p>Detective (Detective Benefit)</p><p> </p><p>FINAL ABILITY SCORES</p><p>STR 21, CON 12, DEX 9, INT 15, WIS 20, CHA 11</p><p> </p><p>STARTING ABILITY SCORES</p><p>STR 16, CON 11, DEX 8, INT 14, WIS 15, CHA 10</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>AC: 19** Fort: 25 Ref: 24 Will: 26</p><p>HP: 79 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 19</p><p> </p><p>TRAINED SKILLS</p><p>Athletics +17, Endurance +11, Insight +17, Perception +17</p><p> </p><p>UNTRAINED SKILLS</p><p>Acrobatics +4, Arcana +8, Bluff +6, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +11, Heal +11, History +8, Intimidate +6, Nature +13, Religion +8, Stealth +4, Streetwise +6, Thievery +4</p><p> </p><p>POWERS</p><p>Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack</p><p>Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack</p><p>Goliath Racial Power: Stone's Endurance</p><p>Warlord Feature: Inspiring Word</p><p>Wild Talent Cantrip: Thought Projection</p><p>Warlord Attack 1: Direct the Strike</p><p>Warlord Attack 1: Intuitive Strike</p><p>Warlord Attack 1: Powerful Warning</p><p>Warlord Attack 1: Leader's Instincts</p><p>Warlord Utility 2: Cunning Adjustment</p><p>Warlord Attack 3: No Gambit Is Wasted</p><p>Warlord Attack 5: Exemplar of Action</p><p>Warlord Utility 6: Reassuring Gesture</p><p>Warlord Attack 7: Fierce Reply</p><p>Warlord Attack 9: Force of Fellowship</p><p>Warlord Utility 10: Defensive Rally</p><p>White Raven Attack 11: Inspirational Assault</p><p>White Raven Utility 12: Order from Chaos</p><p> </p><p>FEATS</p><p>Level 1: Goliath Greatweapon Prowess</p><p>Level 2: Lend Strength</p><p>Level 4: Spear Expertise</p><p>Level 6: Inspirational Attacker</p><p>Level 8: Lightning Reflexes</p><p>Level 10: Lend Might</p><p>Level 11: Fight On</p><p>Level 12: Agile Opportunist</p><p> </p><p>ITEMS</p><p>Veteran's Stonemail Armor +3 x1</p><p>Amulet of Protection +3 x1</p><p>Vanguard Longspear +3 x1</p><p>Horned Helm (heroic tier) x1</p><p>Iron Armbands of Power (heroic tier) x1</p><p>====== End ======</p><p></p><p>** - I'm almost positive the character builder's broken IRT calculating AC. I know chainmail sucks, but that's ridiculous.</p><p></p><p>Brad</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cignus_pfaccari, post: 5703910, member: 14557"] Had a thought about action economy, that if a character had the ability to take a lot of Immediate action attacks, that would increase damage output considerably, since one could then use At-Wills or even basic attacks on one's standard actions to keep up the output. Looking around, the Insightful Warlord seems to be the most obvious build for this, and, well, I already have a warlord in our Dark Sun game, so that seemed like a good match. So, chose Goliath for my race, due to the Str/Wis combo, and I always had a soft spot for them from 3.5 (being the only "Races of..." race that actually stuck). The bard and warlock are more social-skillsy, but a party can always use more Perception (and I took Detective so I could get Perception and Insight in-class). I'd actually kind of prefer a minotaur, but those are much less common in Dark Sun, and I just got done playing one. Also, Goliath allows me to take Goliath Greatweapon Prowess, which encourages martial weapon use. I'll be making a lot more low-[W] attacks, so it'll be just easier and save a feat. Needing a reach weapon (as the party is melee-heavy), I can use a Longspear, which in turn encourages Spear Expertise, which in turn encourages charging...which actually, now that I thought about it, is a perfectly good way to spend my turn's standard action, assuming we're not in tunnels, especially using a Vanguard spear and the Horned Helm, that turns into 2d8+1d6+15 on a charge hit. I considered a Gouge, and in fact if this were going to be a slayer or barbarian that's what I'd go with, but Reach is more important to me than having higher damage. Thoughts? Anything that I'm obviously missing? Help pimp this thought experiment-warlord! ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ====== Thotham, level 12 Goliath, Warlord (Marshal), White Raven Build: Insightful Warlord Warlord Option: Combat Leader Commanding Presence Option: Insightful Presence Dark Sun Detective (Detective Benefit) FINAL ABILITY SCORES STR 21, CON 12, DEX 9, INT 15, WIS 20, CHA 11 STARTING ABILITY SCORES STR 16, CON 11, DEX 8, INT 14, WIS 15, CHA 10 AC: 19** Fort: 25 Ref: 24 Will: 26 HP: 79 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 19 TRAINED SKILLS Athletics +17, Endurance +11, Insight +17, Perception +17 UNTRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics +4, Arcana +8, Bluff +6, Diplomacy +6, Dungeoneering +11, Heal +11, History +8, Intimidate +6, Nature +13, Religion +8, Stealth +4, Streetwise +6, Thievery +4 POWERS Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack Goliath Racial Power: Stone's Endurance Warlord Feature: Inspiring Word Wild Talent Cantrip: Thought Projection Warlord Attack 1: Direct the Strike Warlord Attack 1: Intuitive Strike Warlord Attack 1: Powerful Warning Warlord Attack 1: Leader's Instincts Warlord Utility 2: Cunning Adjustment Warlord Attack 3: No Gambit Is Wasted Warlord Attack 5: Exemplar of Action Warlord Utility 6: Reassuring Gesture Warlord Attack 7: Fierce Reply Warlord Attack 9: Force of Fellowship Warlord Utility 10: Defensive Rally White Raven Attack 11: Inspirational Assault White Raven Utility 12: Order from Chaos FEATS Level 1: Goliath Greatweapon Prowess Level 2: Lend Strength Level 4: Spear Expertise Level 6: Inspirational Attacker Level 8: Lightning Reflexes Level 10: Lend Might Level 11: Fight On Level 12: Agile Opportunist ITEMS Veteran's Stonemail Armor +3 x1 Amulet of Protection +3 x1 Vanguard Longspear +3 x1 Horned Helm (heroic tier) x1 Iron Armbands of Power (heroic tier) x1 ====== End ====== ** - I'm almost positive the character builder's broken IRT calculating AC. I know chainmail sucks, but that's ridiculous. Brad [/QUOTE]
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