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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quartz" data-source="post: 3917573" data-attributes="member: 40552">I like what I see of 4E and was wondering how much I could pinch for 3E and what the effect would be.BAB and saves seem immediately stealable. It seems to me that for this to work, we need to introduce the concept of the current class, the class in which you are currently taking a level.We start with BAB=Level / 2 rounded down and Saves = Level / 2 rounded up.A character whose current class has full BAB progression adds a current class bonus of +4 to his BAB, medium +2, and poor +0.A character whose current class has a Good save adds a current class bonus of +2 to that save.So, Fred the Fighter is 4th level and has a AB of +6 and saves of +4/+2/+2. He then takes a level of Monk so his AB drops to +4 but his saves rise to +5/+5/+5. Fred takes another level of Monk so his AB improves to +5 and his saves stay at +5/+5/+5. Fred then takes 4 more levels of Fighter and now has a AB of +9 and saves of +7/+5/+5. 10 levels of Monk later, Fred has a AB of +12 and saves of +12/+12/+12. Had he remained a fighter, he'd have an AB of +14 and saves of +12/+10/+10.What do you think? It tones down the attacks and bumps the saves.</blockquote>