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Message: <blockquote data-quote="phindar" data-source="post: 3377061" data-attributes="member: 37198">So what's the concealment modifier for a light dusting of flour?  Would you go with 20%, or would it completely invalidate the spell?  (I guess it depends on how much flour sticks to the target, but then what kind of roll is that?)[rant]The most troubling line in the spell description to me: "For purposes of this spell, an attack includes any spell targeting a foe or whose area or effect includes a foe. (Exactly who is a foe depends on the invisible character’s perceptions.)"Does that mean fireballing your friends doesn't break the spell?  What about an invisible, dominated creature who believes the party is his friend and that his fireball spells are mass heals?  Fireballing an empty field wouldn't break Invisibility, but what if there was an invisible enemy in that field?Wouldn't it have made more sense to say that an attack (by weapon or detrimental spell that targets a creature or includes a creature in its area of effect) breaks invisibility, rather than leaving it up to the "perceptions" of the invisible creature, or that casting any spell with a detrimental effect breaks the spell, whether or not its centered one someone?  Does it really matter if the invisible creature is using a Scorching Ray to kill a goblin or to set a barn on fire? [/rant]</blockquote>