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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 4686746" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>I'm perfectly aware it takes time and effort to come up with "art". It takes me time and effort to fix one of our Unix boxes that died. Not everyone could do that. It takes training, time, effort, and ideas to fix it. But I don't receive a payment every time someone logs into that Unix box for the rest of time because I fixed it. I just applied my knowledge and time in order to do something. Which I got paid for...once.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And that's kind of my point. Basically, you are saying that the difference between any idea anyone comes up with and art is that you might pay for it. It just means they are GOOD ideas. But basically the same. I admit, I prefer good ideas over bad ideas. Still, why does one idea net me nothing and another idea nets you $250,000 initially and $20,000 dollars a year for the rest of your life and all of your children's lives. I think good ideas should be rewarded. But how much and for how long?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I agree that it is all of those things. It is ideas applied using your training and effort to make a final item of some sort. I do that every day, so does everyone who works in a non-creative job. I don't see why creativity deserves to be rewarded in a completely different way that claims that everyone who uses your work ever needs to pay you.</p><p></p><p>That's my key sticking point in this discussion. Everyone is pointing at piracy and saying "You are stealing all this work that is rightfully someone else's. They deserve to be paid for each and every person who uses their work". I'm asking "What makes their work so valuable that they need to be paid for each and every person who uses it? Why does their work get paid differently than, say, the guy who mows the lawn at a baseball field. Why doesn't he get paid for each person who walks on it or everyone who looks at it? If not him, maybe the guy who planted the grass, or the guy who planned the stadium?"</p><p></p><p>I'm saying, there IS no difference. There shouldn't be a difference in the way things are paid. I think the concept that you can own an idea after you've told someone else it is rather absurd. Once you let the idea out, it isn't yours anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 4686746, member: 5143"] I'm perfectly aware it takes time and effort to come up with "art". It takes me time and effort to fix one of our Unix boxes that died. Not everyone could do that. It takes training, time, effort, and ideas to fix it. But I don't receive a payment every time someone logs into that Unix box for the rest of time because I fixed it. I just applied my knowledge and time in order to do something. Which I got paid for...once. And that's kind of my point. Basically, you are saying that the difference between any idea anyone comes up with and art is that you might pay for it. It just means they are GOOD ideas. But basically the same. I admit, I prefer good ideas over bad ideas. Still, why does one idea net me nothing and another idea nets you $250,000 initially and $20,000 dollars a year for the rest of your life and all of your children's lives. I think good ideas should be rewarded. But how much and for how long? Yeah, I agree that it is all of those things. It is ideas applied using your training and effort to make a final item of some sort. I do that every day, so does everyone who works in a non-creative job. I don't see why creativity deserves to be rewarded in a completely different way that claims that everyone who uses your work ever needs to pay you. That's my key sticking point in this discussion. Everyone is pointing at piracy and saying "You are stealing all this work that is rightfully someone else's. They deserve to be paid for each and every person who uses their work". I'm asking "What makes their work so valuable that they need to be paid for each and every person who uses it? Why does their work get paid differently than, say, the guy who mows the lawn at a baseball field. Why doesn't he get paid for each person who walks on it or everyone who looks at it? If not him, maybe the guy who planted the grass, or the guy who planned the stadium?" I'm saying, there IS no difference. There shouldn't be a difference in the way things are paid. I think the concept that you can own an idea after you've told someone else it is rather absurd. Once you let the idea out, it isn't yours anymore. [/QUOTE]
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