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<blockquote data-quote="Caliburn101" data-source="post: 7751234" data-attributes="member: 6802178"><p>Look at the other side of the argument before challenging maybe?</p><p></p><p>In 5th Edition for instance, a 20th level Fighter can use their signature ability and kill an average HP Wizard in one round, guaranteed, as long as they are within a single move of them.</p><p></p><p>The same cannot be said of the Wizard against the Fighter.</p><p></p><p>Likewise an opening round from a Rogue Assassin will carve the Wizards liver out before they are able to express shock on their face, never mind cast a spell. No Legendary Manga'ness required. The Rogue is almost sure to go first as well, and with the Wizard entirely unaware they are about to be in combat.</p><p></p><p>These are facts - and yet you think only magic makes a character OP?</p><p></p><p>Reality states otherwise.</p><p></p><p>He/she who goes first wins at this level.</p><p></p><p>This is not true in every case with PF1 - but then it's a 3.5 clone and not current 'tech' really, so the arguments of yesteryear are not valid anymore - like the number of high level spells available. PF2 is also reducing spell slots significantly, so there you are, progress.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliburn101, post: 7751234, member: 6802178"] Look at the other side of the argument before challenging maybe? In 5th Edition for instance, a 20th level Fighter can use their signature ability and kill an average HP Wizard in one round, guaranteed, as long as they are within a single move of them. The same cannot be said of the Wizard against the Fighter. Likewise an opening round from a Rogue Assassin will carve the Wizards liver out before they are able to express shock on their face, never mind cast a spell. No Legendary Manga'ness required. The Rogue is almost sure to go first as well, and with the Wizard entirely unaware they are about to be in combat. These are facts - and yet you think only magic makes a character OP? Reality states otherwise. He/she who goes first wins at this level. This is not true in every case with PF1 - but then it's a 3.5 clone and not current 'tech' really, so the arguments of yesteryear are not valid anymore - like the number of high level spells available. PF2 is also reducing spell slots significantly, so there you are, progress. [/QUOTE]
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