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Pissed about the reduction of the Spell Focus Feats
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<blockquote data-quote="Grog" data-source="post: 955837" data-attributes="member: 6183"><p>The problem, as I've said, is that SR is increasingly common in higher CR foes. Let's look at the monsters CR 14-21 with SR:</p><p></p><p>Astral Deva</p><p>Hezrou</p><p>Trumpet Archon</p><p>Glabrezu</p><p>Nalfeshnee</p><p>Pit Fiend</p><p>Planetar</p><p>Marilith</p><p>Balor</p><p>Formian Queen</p><p>Solar</p><p>Tarrasque</p><p>Titan</p><p>And 45 dragons of various colors and ages.</p><p></p><p>Now, the CR 14-21 monsters without SR:</p><p></p><p>3 hydras</p><p>3 nightcrawlers</p><p></p><p>Only six out of the 64 monsters in the MM in the CR 14-21 range don't have SR. Less than 10%. So when you say that a wizard without Spell Penetration deserves what he gets in combat a spell-resistant creature, you're saying that a wizard deserves what he gets in combat with almost every monster of a CR equal to his level from level 14 up. And if they run into an enemy with a higher CR, it's even worse.</p><p></p><p>Since the SR of monsters seems to be increasing in 3.5E, it looks like there's a distinct possibility that wizards and sorcerors are going to <em>have</em> to take SP and GSP in order to stay viable at high levels.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's true against some foes. However, as levels and CRs increase, the wizard's foes gain access to more and more combat options than simply slugging it out with the fighters in meele.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grog, post: 955837, member: 6183"] The problem, as I've said, is that SR is increasingly common in higher CR foes. Let's look at the monsters CR 14-21 with SR: Astral Deva Hezrou Trumpet Archon Glabrezu Nalfeshnee Pit Fiend Planetar Marilith Balor Formian Queen Solar Tarrasque Titan And 45 dragons of various colors and ages. Now, the CR 14-21 monsters without SR: 3 hydras 3 nightcrawlers Only six out of the 64 monsters in the MM in the CR 14-21 range don't have SR. Less than 10%. So when you say that a wizard without Spell Penetration deserves what he gets in combat a spell-resistant creature, you're saying that a wizard deserves what he gets in combat with almost every monster of a CR equal to his level from level 14 up. And if they run into an enemy with a higher CR, it's even worse. Since the SR of monsters seems to be increasing in 3.5E, it looks like there's a distinct possibility that wizards and sorcerors are going to [i]have[/i] to take SP and GSP in order to stay viable at high levels. That's true against some foes. However, as levels and CRs increase, the wizard's foes gain access to more and more combat options than simply slugging it out with the fighters in meele. [/QUOTE]
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