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<blockquote data-quote="QuietBrowser" data-source="post: 7126324" data-attributes="member: 6855057"><p>This here is exactly why I have <strong>never</strong> been able to truly like Dragonlance. The abysmal fluff for the "comedic relief" races plays its part, of course, but the fact it touts this claptrap as part of its background lore, it just incenses me.</p><p></p><p>I can't honestly be the only person who sees how morally messed up this is, right? I can't be the one guy in the D&D world who sees "The Balance had swayed too far towards Good" and goes "What the flipping (Censored)!?" - in what freaking world are you living in where racial pogroms, mind-reading inquisitions, and general persecution are somehow "Good" just because the people responsible believe they're serving the greater good?</p><p></p><p>I mean, hashbrowns on a stick, I hate to invoke Godwin's Law, but that's literally like saying the committers of anti-Semitic pogroms throughout history were well-intentioned extremists! They thought they were doing God's Work by exterminating the heretics who murdered Our Lord And Saviour Jesus Christ, after all!</p><p></p><p>Oh, and, somehow, it's the <strong>mortals</strong><em>'</em> fault that the gods went away after the Cataclysm <em>and </em>we should feel bad that they left <em>and </em>we should want them back! From where I'm sitting, it looks pretty much like the opposite! Why the hosannah should we want the victim-blaming, self-righteous, moronic deities back if the Cataclysm was honestly their idea of the best way to handle the Kingpriest and his cronies?</p><p></p><p>I know that D&D alignment has always been a messed up tangle of worms and that getting rid of it was the best thing that 4e and 5e did, but seriously, if Dragonlance really is a look into the moral beliefs of its authors, that's actually kind of scary...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or, you know, you could just presume the canon characters don't exist and your party is taking their place? I mean, who wants to be small potatoes next to some NPC? That's precisely one of the major complaints about Forgotten Realms throughout its history; the feeling of being second fiddle to characters like Elminster and Drizzt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuietBrowser, post: 7126324, member: 6855057"] This here is exactly why I have [B]never[/B] been able to truly like Dragonlance. The abysmal fluff for the "comedic relief" races plays its part, of course, but the fact it touts this claptrap as part of its background lore, it just incenses me. I can't honestly be the only person who sees how morally messed up this is, right? I can't be the one guy in the D&D world who sees "The Balance had swayed too far towards Good" and goes "What the flipping (Censored)!?" - in what freaking world are you living in where racial pogroms, mind-reading inquisitions, and general persecution are somehow "Good" just because the people responsible believe they're serving the greater good? I mean, hashbrowns on a stick, I hate to invoke Godwin's Law, but that's literally like saying the committers of anti-Semitic pogroms throughout history were well-intentioned extremists! They thought they were doing God's Work by exterminating the heretics who murdered Our Lord And Saviour Jesus Christ, after all! Oh, and, somehow, it's the [B]mortals[/B][I]'[/I] fault that the gods went away after the Cataclysm [I]and [/I]we should feel bad that they left [I]and [/I]we should want them back! From where I'm sitting, it looks pretty much like the opposite! Why the hosannah should we want the victim-blaming, self-righteous, moronic deities back if the Cataclysm was honestly their idea of the best way to handle the Kingpriest and his cronies? I know that D&D alignment has always been a messed up tangle of worms and that getting rid of it was the best thing that 4e and 5e did, but seriously, if Dragonlance really is a look into the moral beliefs of its authors, that's actually kind of scary... Or, you know, you could just presume the canon characters don't exist and your party is taking their place? I mean, who wants to be small potatoes next to some NPC? That's precisely one of the major complaints about Forgotten Realms throughout its history; the feeling of being second fiddle to characters like Elminster and Drizzt. [/QUOTE]
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