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<blockquote data-quote="FANGO" data-source="post: 63689" data-attributes="member: 2368"><p>In just about every spell in the SRD(PHB, whatever), it says "character" to refer to the spellcaster (or if not just about every one, then at least a significant amount of them). This does not mean that the spell can only be cast by humanoids. There are ways to add character levels to all sorts of creatures (table in the DMG...unicorn for example, and also the sections in the MM where it says "(such and such) characters" in the monster entry (orc is one example, can't think of a non-humanoid but that's just because I haven't looked). If you want to use that reasoning, then you could say that every monster in the MM can't cast spells in the PHB (or at least not ones that mention "character"...nightmare, for an example from a current debate on these boards (according to KD's reasoning, that lich shouldn't even be casting that spell, since he's not a character!)), because they were "thinking about humanoid characters" when designing them.</p><p></p><p>If you're going to take all flavor text into account when assessing a spell, then how about we do that with races too? Example: "Dwarven culture extols the virtue of the warrior, and the vocation comes easily to dwarves." I suppose this means that dwarves have warrior as a favored class, rather than fighter? I know it's not a wonderful example, but for a simple glance at my PHB it shows that it isn't very hard to find an incidence of flavor text apparently contradicting mechanics.</p><p></p><p>It is blindingly obvious that expeditious retreat affects all speeds. It says it in the SRD, it says it in the PHB, and it's not unbalancing in the slightest. I honestly can't believe that there is any debate on this subject.d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FANGO, post: 63689, member: 2368"] In just about every spell in the SRD(PHB, whatever), it says "character" to refer to the spellcaster (or if not just about every one, then at least a significant amount of them). This does not mean that the spell can only be cast by humanoids. There are ways to add character levels to all sorts of creatures (table in the DMG...unicorn for example, and also the sections in the MM where it says "(such and such) characters" in the monster entry (orc is one example, can't think of a non-humanoid but that's just because I haven't looked). If you want to use that reasoning, then you could say that every monster in the MM can't cast spells in the PHB (or at least not ones that mention "character"...nightmare, for an example from a current debate on these boards (according to KD's reasoning, that lich shouldn't even be casting that spell, since he's not a character!)), because they were "thinking about humanoid characters" when designing them. If you're going to take all flavor text into account when assessing a spell, then how about we do that with races too? Example: "Dwarven culture extols the virtue of the warrior, and the vocation comes easily to dwarves." I suppose this means that dwarves have warrior as a favored class, rather than fighter? I know it's not a wonderful example, but for a simple glance at my PHB it shows that it isn't very hard to find an incidence of flavor text apparently contradicting mechanics. It is blindingly obvious that expeditious retreat affects all speeds. It says it in the SRD, it says it in the PHB, and it's not unbalancing in the slightest. I honestly can't believe that there is any debate on this subject.d [/QUOTE]
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