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<blockquote data-quote="Dr Midnight" data-source="post: 344520" data-attributes="member: 69"><p>Okay. This is an old topic, but it's never one that comes up without some flames. I, and most of us here, loved Peter Jackson's Fellowship of the Ring. That's not in question. Discussion of even the film's flaws is an exercise of that love. I'd like to hear what bothered you about it. </p><p></p><p>Now- mind you- we've all heard these in defense of the flaws: </p><p>-You can't make a film without changing some things. </p><p>-You can't fit all that into three hours, and PJ did what he needed to.</p><p>-Film and literature are two different mediums.</p><p>-Could YOU do better?</p><p></p><p>We've ALL heard them, and we all know them. If you've got something like this to say, please stow it in the overhead. I'd like to know from you what you think PJ did in the film that DIDN'T HAVE to be changed from the books. Little things, big things... whatever bugged you.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.tolkienonline.com/movies/changes_fotr.02.cfm" target="_blank">See this page for a good analysis of what was changed</a> </p><p></p><p>For me, I can list these off the top of my head-</p><p></p><p>-Gimli's role as the stuffy, funny dwarf was a bit much. Gimli is a noble character, and I feel he only got one Gimli-worthy line in the film: "Let them come! There is yet one dwarf in Moria who still draws breath..." The "Nobody tosses a dwarf" line was just unnecessary. Who can argue that?</p><p></p><p>-Cutting Galadriel's gift-giving scene is what bothers me the most. Gimli's character gets perhaps his biggest scene here, and we see a lot of items that will help the Fellowship in hard times. I can't wait to see the extended version.</p><p></p><p>-We could have used something explaining WHY Gollum knows of Bilbo and the Shire... As it is, we only know that Bilbo found Gollum's ring. No mention of the meeting was made, save for how it was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand (to kill Gollum). </p><p></p><p>-I really disagree with PJ's decision to stage a wizards' battle using non-stereotypical magic. The slamming around with the staves really turned me off. I don't need to see fireballs, but... I certainly don't need to see them doing wrestling moves at twenty feet apart. </p><p></p><p>Discuss, and please remember: Things that bugged you that have nothing (or little) to do with translating book to film or condensing for time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr Midnight, post: 344520, member: 69"] Okay. This is an old topic, but it's never one that comes up without some flames. I, and most of us here, loved Peter Jackson's Fellowship of the Ring. That's not in question. Discussion of even the film's flaws is an exercise of that love. I'd like to hear what bothered you about it. Now- mind you- we've all heard these in defense of the flaws: -You can't make a film without changing some things. -You can't fit all that into three hours, and PJ did what he needed to. -Film and literature are two different mediums. -Could YOU do better? We've ALL heard them, and we all know them. If you've got something like this to say, please stow it in the overhead. I'd like to know from you what you think PJ did in the film that DIDN'T HAVE to be changed from the books. Little things, big things... whatever bugged you. [URL=http://www.tolkienonline.com/movies/changes_fotr.02.cfm]See this page for a good analysis of what was changed[/URL] For me, I can list these off the top of my head- -Gimli's role as the stuffy, funny dwarf was a bit much. Gimli is a noble character, and I feel he only got one Gimli-worthy line in the film: "Let them come! There is yet one dwarf in Moria who still draws breath..." The "Nobody tosses a dwarf" line was just unnecessary. Who can argue that? -Cutting Galadriel's gift-giving scene is what bothers me the most. Gimli's character gets perhaps his biggest scene here, and we see a lot of items that will help the Fellowship in hard times. I can't wait to see the extended version. -We could have used something explaining WHY Gollum knows of Bilbo and the Shire... As it is, we only know that Bilbo found Gollum's ring. No mention of the meeting was made, save for how it was pity that stayed Bilbo's hand (to kill Gollum). -I really disagree with PJ's decision to stage a wizards' battle using non-stereotypical magic. The slamming around with the staves really turned me off. I don't need to see fireballs, but... I certainly don't need to see them doing wrestling moves at twenty feet apart. Discuss, and please remember: Things that bugged you that have nothing (or little) to do with translating book to film or condensing for time. [/QUOTE]
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