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<blockquote data-quote="Holy Bovine" data-source="post: 346064" data-attributes="member: 203"><p></p><p></p><p>I could actually understand this as the Prancing Pony in the movie seems a much more rough-and-tumble place than the one described in the book. Frodo singing and dancing in such an atmosphere would have seemed very out of place to me.</p><p></p><p>Of course that brings up the question as to why the Prancing Pony was changed into this rougher setting. Again i feel this was necessary. I feel Jackson was trying to show the stark difference between the Shire and the human lands. The Shire always seems warm and inviting but Bree, dominated by humans (note the surprise of the doorman at seeing 4 hobbits at the main gates) is much more dangerous simply because humans are much more dangerous.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unnecessary? I don't think so. IMO this was to show that the Hobbits (particularly Frodo) are much more clever than anyone suspects. Frodo solves the riddle when great and wise Gandalf cannot - its admirably shows his 'hobbit-sense' without resorting to him slaying the Cave Troll single-handedly or some such.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. The gift-giving scene really should have been in there (we could easily have lost some, if not all of the footage of Orcs running, Frodo standing on shore crying and Sam's lameassed 'drowning scene (that one I particularily loathe BTW)at the end of the movie and added the 2-3 minutes of screen time the full gift-giving would have taken. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> (but not <em>that</em> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> )</p><p></p><p>And seeing the Elves going to the Gray Havens (and maybe even Frodo telling Sam - 'The Elves are leaving us Sam' or something just to give a small sense to the changes being wrought in the world around them, and that hobbits are not all back-country bumpkins - again something the Moria gate scene demostrates as well).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Holy Bovine, post: 346064, member: 203"] [B][/b] I could actually understand this as the Prancing Pony in the movie seems a much more rough-and-tumble place than the one described in the book. Frodo singing and dancing in such an atmosphere would have seemed very out of place to me. Of course that brings up the question as to why the Prancing Pony was changed into this rougher setting. Again i feel this was necessary. I feel Jackson was trying to show the stark difference between the Shire and the human lands. The Shire always seems warm and inviting but Bree, dominated by humans (note the surprise of the doorman at seeing 4 hobbits at the main gates) is much more dangerous simply because humans are much more dangerous. [b][/b] Unnecessary? I don't think so. IMO this was to show that the Hobbits (particularly Frodo) are much more clever than anyone suspects. Frodo solves the riddle when great and wise Gandalf cannot - its admirably shows his 'hobbit-sense' without resorting to him slaying the Cave Troll single-handedly or some such. Agreed. The gift-giving scene really should have been in there (we could easily have lost some, if not all of the footage of Orcs running, Frodo standing on shore crying and Sam's lameassed 'drowning scene (that one I particularily loathe BTW)at the end of the movie and added the 2-3 minutes of screen time the full gift-giving would have taken. :mad: (but not [i]that[/i] :mad: ) And seeing the Elves going to the Gray Havens (and maybe even Frodo telling Sam - 'The Elves are leaving us Sam' or something just to give a small sense to the changes being wrought in the world around them, and that hobbits are not all back-country bumpkins - again something the Moria gate scene demostrates as well). [/QUOTE]
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