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<blockquote data-quote="Prince Atom" data-source="post: 346631" data-attributes="member: 6046">Maybe Peter Jackson was trying to show them as fairly naive?&nbsp; They are after all in the wide world for the first time.&nbsp; I'm sure they'll get more canny as the movies progress.&nbsp; Other than that, you're right, they should have had a cold camp if they know the Nazgul are after them.&nbsp;Maybe Elrond trusted in his daughter's abilities.&nbsp; What help did she need?&nbsp; She got away, didn't she?&nbsp; And all she got was a cosmetic scratch on the cheek.&nbsp; Besides, if you cut out most of the Rivendell sequence, there's nothing to show her relationship with Aragorn -- and if she'd just shown up for that love scene, we'd all be wondering where she came from.&nbsp;Did Gandalf know there was a Balrog in Moria?&nbsp; IIRC he was unaware of it in the book.&nbsp; If he said something other in the movie, it escaped me.&nbsp; I can't remember him exclaiming, &quot;It's the Balrog!&nbsp; I'd hoped to avoid its attentions.&quot;BTW, Legolas starts shaking like a bunny in the book.&nbsp; Were any of them particularly scared in the movie?&nbsp; The Elfs have a name for the Balrog (of course) but I can't remember it.&nbsp;I once saw an artist's impression of the king's hall from an ancient Middle Eastern palace (Abyssinian?&nbsp; Maybe Syrian?) and it was all columns.&nbsp; Huge things, a forest of them.&nbsp; I think such things are for show and to be impressive.&nbsp; Either that or the Dwarfs had a great big cavern that needed supports <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp;When did they ignore Legolas?&nbsp; Was this after Lorien?&nbsp; Please enlighten me.And I'll give props to two complaints:&nbsp; Where was Gimli, first, and why did they skip the gifts at Lorien, second.&nbsp; I would have liked to have seen more of Gimli.&nbsp; As it is, he comes across as no more rounded than the dwarf in the D&amp;D movie.I'm going to have to get a DVD player one of these days....TWKI'm going to have to get DVDs one of these days....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Prince Atom, post: 346631, member: 6046"] Maybe Peter Jackson was trying to show them as fairly naive? They are after all in the wide world for the first time. I'm sure they'll get more canny as the movies progress. Other than that, you're right, they should have had a cold camp if they know the Nazgul are after them. Maybe Elrond trusted in his daughter's abilities. What help did she need? She got away, didn't she? And all she got was a cosmetic scratch on the cheek. Besides, if you cut out most of the Rivendell sequence, there's nothing to show her relationship with Aragorn -- and if she'd just shown up for that love scene, we'd all be wondering where she came from. Did Gandalf [I]know[/I] there was a Balrog in Moria? IIRC he was unaware of it in the book. If he said something other in the movie, it escaped me. I can't remember him exclaiming, "It's the Balrog! I'd hoped to avoid its attentions." BTW, Legolas starts shaking like a bunny in the book. Were any of them particularly scared in the movie? The Elfs have a name for the Balrog (of course) but I can't remember it. I once saw an artist's impression of the king's hall from an ancient Middle Eastern palace (Abyssinian? Maybe Syrian?) and it was all columns. Huge things, a forest of them. I think such things are for show and to be impressive. Either that or the Dwarfs had a great big cavern that needed supports :D When did they ignore Legolas? Was this after Lorien? Please enlighten me. And I'll give props to two complaints: Where was Gimli, first, and why did they skip the gifts at Lorien, second. I would have liked to have seen more of Gimli. As it is, he comes across as no more rounded than the dwarf in the D&D movie. I'm going to have to get a DVD player one of these days.... TWK I'm going to have to get DVDs one of these days.... [/QUOTE]

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