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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BlackMoria" data-source="post: 1957056" data-attributes="member: 424">I have notice over the years than the source of many a TPK has it origins in the plan or lack of a plan.I have noticed with a number of players that I have played with over the years that they plan a initial course of action but never have a backup plan.As a DM, I have watched my players plan or overplan and have realized the plan is woefully inadequate or ill conceived.  Frequently, they make bad assumptions or have no tactical acumen, so the plan is a dog from the word go.  They never have a contigency plan or a Plan B.Whenever I was a player, I always tried to insist on a Plan B or a contigency plan.  Even if I was ignored, I always had a personal Plan B for my character.  Which is one factor as to why I have not lost a character I played in over 20 years of playing (notorious good luck was also a factor  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  )As a DM, there have been times I wanted to say "Plan A is a dog...." to my players but I haven'tSo,For players:  Does your merry band make contigent plans when planning the big fight?  Do you make very general plans or plan 'right to the nines' (plan every single detail), as the saying goes?For DMs:  The players are making a plan that is wholly inadequate or unsound.  In your estimate, the party is going to get their heads handed to them.  Do you say anything?  Or do you let them go through with it and let it play out to its ugly conclusion?</blockquote>

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