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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 2181406" data-attributes="member: 11300">Hi Bad Paper,I asked a similar question about a year ago so I have no idea where the thread actually is. However, responses were somewhat minimal and vague - these are not spells that are commonly played in games.In terms of negotiation you have to offer something that the creature would want. With evil creatures, magical items are perhaps a little more flavourful than mere gold or platinum. However, what evil creatures really want is your soul. Offer that to them and they'll most likely do what you want. The book of vile darkness had distilled pain as a currency which would also provide leverage in a negotiation. However a cheaper method is fear. If your level is significantly above theirs, you can most likely cower them into doing what you want or destroying them if they don't do it. If they try this though with creatures with connections, then there may be some issues. Revenge is a fine motive for a fiend.If you want to read perhaps one of the funniest negotiations in terms of a binding spell then you can go no further than Sepulchraves story hour. On Cheiromancer's compiled thread, it is at the end of the 5th post. I could not more highly recommend something  to read along these lines. If you're happy with second best though, you can always try out my own story hour and the three most recent posts.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> As far as Planar Ally is concerned, this is a spell I have never liked in its book form. The thought of offering gold to a celestial seems preposterous. The way how I prefer to run it is that the Ally is called, and the PCs ask of it a favour. However, before they receive that favour, they must complete a service or quest for the Celestial. This seems far more honourable, interesting and less abusable if the party has gold coming out of their posteriors.Anyway, hopefully a few extra people will respond.Best RegardsHerremann the Wise</blockquote>

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