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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 7228167" data-attributes="member: 5890">I find more subtle devils and demons to be more effective. Even if a character summons a demon and has it kill evildoers... that just means they cannot be redeemed, and flow straight to the lower planes. I'm sure I've read a classic story to that effect (in which a man saves his own life in a bargain, but doing so causes two other men to fall out, one murders the other and is himself hanged, and both men go to hell) All you have to do is make it real obvious that's what has happened post-hoc. Have the demon pop up and say thanks. Or say &quot;Hey, last time worked out so well for both of us... how about we handle problem X for you? No charge. All on us. You don't have to worry.&quot;Heck, most of the time you can just let the game unfold without a thought to the machinations of evil. You can just find threads to tie together AFTER something goes wrong. Then have the demon/devil show up and muhhahahaha about it. Preferably before offering a terrible deal to fix the whole shebang.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 7228167, member: 5890"] I find more subtle devils and demons to be more effective. Even if a character summons a demon and has it kill evildoers... that just means they cannot be redeemed, and flow straight to the lower planes. I'm sure I've read a classic story to that effect (in which a man saves his own life in a bargain, but doing so causes two other men to fall out, one murders the other and is himself hanged, and both men go to hell) All you have to do is make it real obvious that's what has happened post-hoc. Have the demon pop up and say thanks. Or say "Hey, last time worked out so well for both of us... how about we handle problem X for you? No charge. All on us. You don't have to worry." Heck, most of the time you can just let the game unfold without a thought to the machinations of evil. You can just find threads to tie together AFTER something goes wrong. Then have the demon/devil show up and muhhahahaha about it. Preferably before offering a terrible deal to fix the whole shebang. [/QUOTE]

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