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<blockquote data-quote="Tzarevitch" data-source="post: 863568" data-attributes="member: 1792"> Well see this is exactly my question. the spell doesnt create the trap...you can cast it without that. So I dont see why a good caster calling a celestial would need to do the trap for that purpose&nbsp;If its a wizard or sorcerer who follows the same deity or even is the same alignment, whats the difference? </blockquote>Actually, the warding circle is the prison. That part is optional. The trap is the fact that the spell snares its target whether willing or not and deposits the target in front of you. The wizard's alignment is not as relevant as whether or not the wizard/sorcerer is a follower of the deity. Not everyone with the same alignment shares the same goals. And just because he is a follower of the same deity doesn't mean that he has the authority to call one of the deity's celestial minions. If he did have such authority he would be able to cast the Planar Ally spells. Fundamentally, the Planar Binding spells are tantamount to driving up to someone in a car, sacking him and driving him back to your place to kindly apologize and ask him for help. You might have a good reason for doing it but it will not likely earn the friendship of the being that is sumoned. Depending on the being it may still help you if the reason is good enough. Tzarevitch[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Tzarevitch, post: 863568, member: 1792"] [B] Well see this is exactly my question. the spell doesnt create the trap...you can cast it without that. So I dont see why a good caster calling a celestial would need to do the trap for that purpose If its a wizard or sorcerer who follows the same deity or even is the same alignment, whats the difference? [/B][/QUOTE] Actually, the warding circle is the prison. That part is optional. The trap is the fact that the spell snares its target whether willing or not and deposits the target in front of you. The wizard's alignment is not as relevant as whether or not the wizard/sorcerer is a follower of the deity. Not everyone with the same alignment shares the same goals. And just because he is a follower of the same deity doesn't mean that he has the authority to call one of the deity's celestial minions. If he did have such authority he would be able to cast the Planar Ally spells. Fundamentally, the Planar Binding spells are tantamount to driving up to someone in a car, sacking him and driving him back to your place to kindly apologize and ask him for help. You might have a good reason for doing it but it will not likely earn the friendship of the being that is sumoned. Depending on the being it may still help you if the reason is good enough. Tzarevitch [/QUOTE]

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