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<blockquote data-quote="jasin" data-source="post: 2299723" data-attributes="member: 7531"><p>I've been creating a Sor13 in case my Mnk3/Ftr10 gets killed in City of </p><p>the Spider Queen and I've only just realized how much fun planar binding </p><p>can be.</p><p></p><p>It's like planar ally, only you don't need to pay, you get your own </p><p>choice of minion, and you don't have to play nice with them. W00t!</p><p></p><p>A planar binder Sor13 might almost have a leader-cohort relationship </p><p>built up with a creature such as a trumpet archon: whenever you go out </p><p>on a dangerous adventure, you call him. If your adventures tend to be </p><p>typical D&D evil-bashing, he shouldn't even be too mad afterwards for </p><p>your forcing him to come along you.</p><p></p><p>And if a trumpet archon isn't enough, cast planar binding again, call </p><p>another one. And another... until you have as many of these flying spell </p><p>resistant energy resistant outsider ECL 20 warrior-clerics as you need.</p><p></p><p>But there are some pretty twinkish things that can be done, even above </p><p>and beyond merely building an army of minions. For example, summon a </p><p>glabrezu and demand that he cast his 1/month wish for you for his </p><p>freedom. His Cha bonus is +5, while a Sor13 might have +7 and a circlet </p><p>of persuasion, for +10. That's about 75% chance to persuade the demon on </p><p>the first day!</p><p></p><p>So at 13th-level, you get a wish at the cost of a few sorcerer spell </p><p>slots and a pissed off glabrezu, who can't even plane shift to get </p><p>revenge on his onw. And if he manages, it's a CR 13 monster, nothing you </p><p>and your party shouldn't be able to handle.</p><p></p><p>But the really twinkish part is that you're able to do this a couple of </p><p>times *each day*. If you don't ask for a specific individual, but just </p><p>call "a glabrezu", you should get a different one each time, and </p><p>hopefully the new </p><p></p><p>Sure, you can build quite an army of enemies that way, but it's 2-3 </p><p>wishes per day for a 13th-level character, at no material/XP cost </p><p>whatsoever. And you have an army of archons to defend you... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>So that this wouldn't be just a rant, a couple of questions: any fun uses (or abuses!) of planar binding/ally you have experienced? Any house rules to prevent abuses? Any good non-obvious choices of monsters to call?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jasin, post: 2299723, member: 7531"] I've been creating a Sor13 in case my Mnk3/Ftr10 gets killed in City of the Spider Queen and I've only just realized how much fun planar binding can be. It's like planar ally, only you don't need to pay, you get your own choice of minion, and you don't have to play nice with them. W00t! A planar binder Sor13 might almost have a leader-cohort relationship built up with a creature such as a trumpet archon: whenever you go out on a dangerous adventure, you call him. If your adventures tend to be typical D&D evil-bashing, he shouldn't even be too mad afterwards for your forcing him to come along you. And if a trumpet archon isn't enough, cast planar binding again, call another one. And another... until you have as many of these flying spell resistant energy resistant outsider ECL 20 warrior-clerics as you need. But there are some pretty twinkish things that can be done, even above and beyond merely building an army of minions. For example, summon a glabrezu and demand that he cast his 1/month wish for you for his freedom. His Cha bonus is +5, while a Sor13 might have +7 and a circlet of persuasion, for +10. That's about 75% chance to persuade the demon on the first day! So at 13th-level, you get a wish at the cost of a few sorcerer spell slots and a pissed off glabrezu, who can't even plane shift to get revenge on his onw. And if he manages, it's a CR 13 monster, nothing you and your party shouldn't be able to handle. But the really twinkish part is that you're able to do this a couple of times *each day*. If you don't ask for a specific individual, but just call "a glabrezu", you should get a different one each time, and hopefully the new Sure, you can build quite an army of enemies that way, but it's 2-3 wishes per day for a 13th-level character, at no material/XP cost whatsoever. And you have an army of archons to defend you... :) So that this wouldn't be just a rant, a couple of questions: any fun uses (or abuses!) of planar binding/ally you have experienced? Any house rules to prevent abuses? Any good non-obvious choices of monsters to call? [/QUOTE]
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