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<blockquote data-quote="Fieari" data-source="post: 3162403" data-attributes="member: 16221"><p>I'd stick with "Trying to get a malevolent entity to grant a wish will involve perversion of intent".</p><p></p><p>Do not, under any circumstances, let them say "I wish to increase my strength by 1" or any numerical value. This has only a meta meaning, and cannot be stated in game. A wizard casting this himself could word it this way, but that's because he's the one doing the casting. He doesn't have to worry about wording as long as he stays within the safe limits.</p><p></p><p>Any other phraseology can be perverted, and I recomend you do so. If you're stuck for how to pervert it as correctly stated (and I'm of the belief that the english language is ambiguous enough that NOTHING can be stated perfectly; see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntactic_ambiguity" target="_blank">Syntactic ambiguity</a>), look for ways the efreeti could possibly have "misheard" the request. Remember, it's not the players casting the spell, it's the efreeti. And YOU, the DM, control the efreeti. Even if the efreeti is compelled to obey, what if the efreeti misheard "strength" for "stench"? A matter of accents, you see. That sort of thing. "Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you meant..."</p><p></p><p>Also, as aluded to in the posts above, have the efreeti do MORE than asked for. Or get to the result via a laborous route (like becomming a bear) or for a short period of time.</p><p></p><p>Even so, don't let them get away with this sort of thing. I'll bet there's a King of efreeti somewhere that might get pissed off that his servants are being used in this way...</p><p></p><p>And if it takes multiple efreeti to do this feat, I'd bet an uprising would be leveled against them sooner, rather than later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fieari, post: 3162403, member: 16221"] I'd stick with "Trying to get a malevolent entity to grant a wish will involve perversion of intent". Do not, under any circumstances, let them say "I wish to increase my strength by 1" or any numerical value. This has only a meta meaning, and cannot be stated in game. A wizard casting this himself could word it this way, but that's because he's the one doing the casting. He doesn't have to worry about wording as long as he stays within the safe limits. Any other phraseology can be perverted, and I recomend you do so. If you're stuck for how to pervert it as correctly stated (and I'm of the belief that the english language is ambiguous enough that NOTHING can be stated perfectly; see [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntactic_ambiguity]Syntactic ambiguity[/url]), look for ways the efreeti could possibly have "misheard" the request. Remember, it's not the players casting the spell, it's the efreeti. And YOU, the DM, control the efreeti. Even if the efreeti is compelled to obey, what if the efreeti misheard "strength" for "stench"? A matter of accents, you see. That sort of thing. "Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you meant..." Also, as aluded to in the posts above, have the efreeti do MORE than asked for. Or get to the result via a laborous route (like becomming a bear) or for a short period of time. Even so, don't let them get away with this sort of thing. I'll bet there's a King of efreeti somewhere that might get pissed off that his servants are being used in this way... And if it takes multiple efreeti to do this feat, I'd bet an uprising would be leveled against them sooner, rather than later. [/QUOTE]
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