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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfwood2" data-source="post: 3162588" data-attributes="member: 39394">But what is the value of the wishes?&nbsp; Essentially it's the value of the Efreeti's time, plus mark-up.&nbsp; Only meta-game considerations say that it needs to be valued equivalently to the cost of a wizard casting a wish.&nbsp; Why should the Efreet charge enormously more than for the use of any of his other 3/day spell-like abilties.Whereas my &quot;limited wish&quot; solution fixes the problem, while still allowing the efreeti to do the &quot;grant three wishes for a mortal&quot; thing they are supposed to be doing.I say again that there should be circumstances under which efreeti are using their 3/day wishes at the behest of human beings.&nbsp; Otherwise what's the point of giving them those abilities, with that limitation, in the first place?Whenever I hear little DM-lesson fantasies like this, I have a fantasy of my own.&nbsp; I have a fantasy of being a player who just bulls ahead and lets the DM destroy my PC.&nbsp; And then afterwards, I'd ask him,&quot;But who really lost more here, oh DM?&nbsp; I can make a new character in an hour or so, and it will be fun and interesting to do that.&nbsp; You, on the other hand, have to deal with the disruption in your campaign and ending the story we were collectively telling on a sour note.&nbsp; You have to be the one to worry about fitting my new character in and abandoning all the plot threads from my old character.&nbsp; All because you refused to address an out of game problem, out of game.&nbsp; So good luck with that.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wolfwood2, post: 3162588, member: 39394"] But what is the value of the wishes? Essentially it's the value of the Efreeti's time, plus mark-up. Only meta-game considerations say that it needs to be valued equivalently to the cost of a wizard casting a wish. Why should the Efreet charge enormously more than for the use of any of his other 3/day spell-like abilties. Whereas my "limited wish" solution fixes the problem, while still allowing the efreeti to do the "grant three wishes for a mortal" thing they are [B]supposed[/B] to be doing. I say again that there should be circumstances under which efreeti are using their 3/day wishes at the behest of human beings. Otherwise what's the point of giving them those abilities, with that limitation, in the first place? Whenever I hear little DM-lesson fantasies like this, I have a fantasy of my own. I have a fantasy of being a player who just bulls ahead and lets the DM destroy my PC. And then afterwards, I'd ask him, "But who really lost more here, oh DM? I can make a new character in an hour or so, and it will be fun and interesting to do that. You, on the other hand, have to deal with the disruption in your campaign and ending the story we were collectively telling on a sour note. You have to be the one to worry about fitting my new character in and abandoning all the plot threads from my old character. All because you refused to address an out of game problem, out of game. So good luck with that." [/QUOTE]

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