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Planar binding = unlimited wishes?
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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 3163075" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>If the genie can cast <em>Wish</em> 3 times a day, and he does it in 3 successive rounds, then wouldn't that render a +3 bonus to a stat?</p><p></p><p>EDIT:</p><p></p><p>Lesser Planar Binding</p><p>"Once the requested service is completed, the creature need only so inform you to be instantly sent back whence it came."</p><p></p><p>Note that IF you consider the act of <em>Wishing</em> an inherent bonus to be one act, and also argue that it is not possible within the negotiating stage of Planar Binding to contract for multiple acts, then this sentence makes it <em>possible</em> for the genie to perform one act (the first of three <em>Wishes</em>) and yet remain present, allowing it to perform two other acts (two more <em>Wishes</em>) upon the conjurer. Note that the genie is not sent back when the act is completed, but when the conjurer is <u>informed of its completion</u>.</p><p></p><p>Why the genie might want to do so does not matter; what matters is that it is <em>possible</em> for the genie to do it.</p><p></p><p>And so I submit that it is <em>possible</em> to gain more than a +1 to a stat from a Planar Bound genie.</p><p></p><p>Does that satisfy?</p><p></p><p>How should I know? It's the value agreed upon by the genie and the conjurer; it will depend upon the respective barganing abilities of those characters. The point is, the <em>Wish</em> holds great value for the PC. The genie will know this, and thereby be able to demand a great deal in return for his services.</p><p></p><p>The actual amount of the "great deal" is not a meta-construct; it's what's determined in the negotiating phase of the Planar Binding spell. It's an in-character development.</p><p></p><p>The metagame aspect is that the PC will be forced to either consent to the amount demanded by the genie, or resort to threatening the genie's life. If he chooses to pay, the PC's resources are reduced by the value of the bonus to the ability score: Balanced. If he chooses to threaten, the PC's life will become the subject of frequent assualts, thereby increasing the danger to his person in an amount relative to the benefit he has recieved: Balanced.</p><p></p><p>There's no need for house-ruling or Wish-perversion; there are automatic balancing mechanisms that will take care of the problem for you Dr. Awk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 3163075, member: 3929"] If the genie can cast [i]Wish[/i] 3 times a day, and he does it in 3 successive rounds, then wouldn't that render a +3 bonus to a stat? EDIT: Lesser Planar Binding "Once the requested service is completed, the creature need only so inform you to be instantly sent back whence it came." Note that IF you consider the act of [i]Wishing[/i] an inherent bonus to be one act, and also argue that it is not possible within the negotiating stage of Planar Binding to contract for multiple acts, then this sentence makes it [i]possible[/i] for the genie to perform one act (the first of three [i]Wishes[/i]) and yet remain present, allowing it to perform two other acts (two more [i]Wishes[/i]) upon the conjurer. Note that the genie is not sent back when the act is completed, but when the conjurer is [u]informed of its completion[/u]. Why the genie might want to do so does not matter; what matters is that it is [i]possible[/i] for the genie to do it. And so I submit that it is [i]possible[/i] to gain more than a +1 to a stat from a Planar Bound genie. Does that satisfy? How should I know? It's the value agreed upon by the genie and the conjurer; it will depend upon the respective barganing abilities of those characters. The point is, the [i]Wish[/i] holds great value for the PC. The genie will know this, and thereby be able to demand a great deal in return for his services. The actual amount of the "great deal" is not a meta-construct; it's what's determined in the negotiating phase of the Planar Binding spell. It's an in-character development. The metagame aspect is that the PC will be forced to either consent to the amount demanded by the genie, or resort to threatening the genie's life. If he chooses to pay, the PC's resources are reduced by the value of the bonus to the ability score: Balanced. If he chooses to threaten, the PC's life will become the subject of frequent assualts, thereby increasing the danger to his person in an amount relative to the benefit he has recieved: Balanced. There's no need for house-ruling or Wish-perversion; there are automatic balancing mechanisms that will take care of the problem for you Dr. Awk. [/QUOTE]
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