Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Planar binding = unlimited wishes?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Three_Haligonians" data-source="post: 3164730" data-attributes="member: 19546"><p>Ok, first of all, not everyone plays to "tell a collective story". Second of all, if this were about "punishing" the players for trying to break the system there doesn't need to be any big rigamarole... the DM can simply say a cinder block flies out of the sky and smacks the PC in the head - killing him instantly.</p><p></p><p>What is going on here, I believe, is that the OP is trying to figure out what the consequences of the PC's actions will be. When they do stuff, stuff happens back. Just like a group of PC's who decide to kill eveyone in the tavern because they.. I don't know.. can't get free rooms. City Guards come to arrest them and it escalates from there because actions have reactions.</p><p></p><p>As to the actual point, I agree with the idea that if the PCs attempt to strike a deal with the efreet - they can get their wish (although I agree Infiniti2000, they can only get a +1 out of the deal). If they decide to go down the extortion road, well then, that's when the reaction comes in.</p><p></p><p>If they really push for +3 or more. Have the Efreet create whatever tome or manual they need (from the DMG). Follow the rules for creating magic items under the <em>wish</em> spell entry and have the XP come out of the character. Chances are, they will drop a level or two which may fix your "but my PCs are too strong for an efreet to be a threat" problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See, this is the same thing as the tavern example from above. Eventually something -stronger- than the PCs is going to come looking for answers... or worse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Three_Haligonians, post: 3164730, member: 19546"] Ok, first of all, not everyone plays to "tell a collective story". Second of all, if this were about "punishing" the players for trying to break the system there doesn't need to be any big rigamarole... the DM can simply say a cinder block flies out of the sky and smacks the PC in the head - killing him instantly. What is going on here, I believe, is that the OP is trying to figure out what the consequences of the PC's actions will be. When they do stuff, stuff happens back. Just like a group of PC's who decide to kill eveyone in the tavern because they.. I don't know.. can't get free rooms. City Guards come to arrest them and it escalates from there because actions have reactions. As to the actual point, I agree with the idea that if the PCs attempt to strike a deal with the efreet - they can get their wish (although I agree Infiniti2000, they can only get a +1 out of the deal). If they decide to go down the extortion road, well then, that's when the reaction comes in. If they really push for +3 or more. Have the Efreet create whatever tome or manual they need (from the DMG). Follow the rules for creating magic items under the [i]wish[/i] spell entry and have the XP come out of the character. Chances are, they will drop a level or two which may fix your "but my PCs are too strong for an efreet to be a threat" problem. See, this is the same thing as the tavern example from above. Eventually something -stronger- than the PCs is going to come looking for answers... or worse. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Planar binding = unlimited wishes?
Top