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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moorcrys" data-source="post: 3164794" data-attributes="member: 7814">I guess the original post tipped me off... where the PCs threaten a lawful evil being with death unless he does what they say, with no compensation for his 'gift' other than his life. Seems like a pretty good reason for the efreet to be a 'dick' about it, don't you think?  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />There are plenty of ways to negotiate for services from a powerful being, that isn't what this particular group seems to be interested in. And there is fair payment as well. This particular group seems to be interested in taking advantage of the rules to empower themselves -- in essence summoning and then threatening a bunch of wish-granting creatures that they know they're stronger than to get at least +3 inherent bonuses to all of their stats... without paying for it with experience or money. They're in essence using a lower level spell to gain multiple castings of a 9th level spell... higher since they do not pay the XP cost. And once they've gotten their stat boosts, will it stop there? Are you kidding? If I got away with that, I would have multiple planar binding spells on hand for any occasion, since I could bypass almost any obstace or have thousands of gold pieces or any number or magical items at my disposal simply by summoning an efreet and threatening it for wishes. It's a game breaker, and a loophole, and people are simply trying to come up with creative ways to close it without endless conflict and without you having to just say, "You can't do it because you can't do it."So you either take it for granted that anyone of the appropriate level who has access to planar binding spells has access to unlimited wishes (or at the very least three per day), or you assume that intelligent beings who have knowledge of spells like this and who have a long history of having to deal with mortals trying to screw them in this way have devised many, many ways to protect themselves from such greedy tactics. I lean towards the latter assumption.</blockquote>

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