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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bran Blackbyrd" data-source="post: 1714386" data-attributes="member: 1710">That looks like a contradiction. If the inhabitants of the planes are so powerful and bent on killing the PCs, then why should it matter that the Lady of Pain can smack them down without specific rules to govern how she does it? Frankly, I never saw why players concerned themselves with the Lady. Do they really think they're important enough for her to bother with?I can understand someone complaining that she's just a jury-rigged "patch" to explain how a place like Sigil could exist, free from the Gods' meddling. I can understand that point of view; but complaining that she's there to kill the players if they get out of hand is short-sighted and wrong-headed.For one, it's the DM that decides how to use her. If the DM uses the Lady to kill the players or block them at every turn when they don't do what he/she wants, that's a problem with the DM, not the setting.The only players I can think of that would read about the Lady and automatically feel threatened by her, are the powergaming twinks that like to have their character wreak as much havok as possible and have the ego to think that their puny PC will even get noticed by the Gods. People like that see ANY sign that something might be powerful enough to have a better than 50/50 shot at stopping them as a threat to their PC's ability to kill stuff and take loot.There are entire factions full of capable people in Sigil routinely doing stuff that the Lady doesn't like, the players must really think they're hot stuff if they think they'll catch more than a passing glance of the Lady of Pain.Where are all of these games where the PCs "get up in the Gods' Kool-aid? Sheesh.And two, the Lady's power doesn't extend past Sigil. So your players can do whatever the heck they want on the other planes and she can't touch them (like she'd bother anyway).You apparently got something from the books that I did not.And not Dark Sun?</blockquote>

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