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<blockquote data-quote="catsclaw227" data-source="post: 4999852" data-attributes="member: 14197"><p>I agree, and would bring in Religion as an additional skill to use. Now, I have also house-ruled that a few additional skills exist (even if just in spirit, rather than mechanically).</p><p></p><p>In my old 3.x game, I gave each PC a "hobby" skill that could be a Knowledge, Perform, Craft or Profession skill that they automatically gain as a class skill and are given free Skill Focus in that skill. Caveat -- the skill must be something that is actually like a hobby and can't be something that you would normally take as a classed PC. For example, a wizard can't take Knowledge:Arcana, but he can take Perform: Lute or Craft: Woodworking. Yes, it was a subjective DM fiat thing, but the players got the idea.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Whew.... yes I agree that if there was one thing that the alignment system of previous editions did right was to qualify certain creature attitudes. The Slaad are a very specific example where Chaotic Neutral really played a role beyond the "detect/smite" type identify/defeat spells and abilities.</p><p></p><p>My head, like Andor's also exploded with your explanation.... Consider that a good thing. Very chaotic neutral. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>But.... I think that you can have a Slaad Unaligned and still exhibit the kinds of chaos-personified that you want. Unfortunately, in 4e it is not codified and would require a skilled DM to pull off correctly.</p><p></p><p>You, for what it's worth, have a lot more practical experience with Slaad than most, and can most accurately quantify and qualify the alignment and the personality requirements to properly NPC the creature.</p><p></p><p>But (also a houserule) I have adopted an uncodified Law-Chaos axis that I like to use in my games. I like the Elric/Corum/Hawkwind philosophy of Law/Chaos that Moorcock described. the players like the idea too.</p><p></p><p>So I would make the Slaad an Unaligned creature with a super-sexy Chaos suit on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="catsclaw227, post: 4999852, member: 14197"] I agree, and would bring in Religion as an additional skill to use. Now, I have also house-ruled that a few additional skills exist (even if just in spirit, rather than mechanically). In my old 3.x game, I gave each PC a "hobby" skill that could be a Knowledge, Perform, Craft or Profession skill that they automatically gain as a class skill and are given free Skill Focus in that skill. Caveat -- the skill must be something that is actually like a hobby and can't be something that you would normally take as a classed PC. For example, a wizard can't take Knowledge:Arcana, but he can take Perform: Lute or Craft: Woodworking. Yes, it was a subjective DM fiat thing, but the players got the idea. Whew.... yes I agree that if there was one thing that the alignment system of previous editions did right was to qualify certain creature attitudes. The Slaad are a very specific example where Chaotic Neutral really played a role beyond the "detect/smite" type identify/defeat spells and abilities. My head, like Andor's also exploded with your explanation.... Consider that a good thing. Very chaotic neutral. :) But.... I think that you can have a Slaad Unaligned and still exhibit the kinds of chaos-personified that you want. Unfortunately, in 4e it is not codified and would require a skilled DM to pull off correctly. You, for what it's worth, have a lot more practical experience with Slaad than most, and can most accurately quantify and qualify the alignment and the personality requirements to properly NPC the creature. But (also a houserule) I have adopted an uncodified Law-Chaos axis that I like to use in my games. I like the Elric/Corum/Hawkwind philosophy of Law/Chaos that Moorcock described. the players like the idea too. So I would make the Slaad an Unaligned creature with a super-sexy Chaos suit on. [/QUOTE]
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