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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 909063" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Well, it isn't impossible for a mortal to have a favored relationship with a deity, but such a tremendous advantage has to be handeld with care and I'd just avoid the issue by suggesting that no PC should be just chummy with a deity.</p><p></p><p>One example that comes to mind is Odysseus's relationship with Athena. Odysseus was allowed to get away with things that would have got anyone else the target of divine vengence, but even Odysseus's had to be careful how far he pushed the 'Since I'm a the most cunning, charming, and fearless of heroes you can't help but like me, oh wisest and most valiant of goddesses...' thing. </p><p></p><p>At the very least, the PC should hold as central of place in the mythology of the story world as Eliminster or Odysseus holds in thier own. If the PC isn't so clearly heroic and mighty as Eliminster, then I think your PC has a serious hubris issue and Bane in particular (as others have mentioned) is not going to look kindly on mortals forgetting thier place.</p><p></p><p>This is also a bit of a modernity on the part of the player, because he's very much looking at the world as a society of peers working together towards a common goal. The analogy regarding the CEO is apt, because that's about as close in the modern democratic world as we get to differences in rank and priveledge, but its off by several orders of magnitude. For a better analogy and a more ancient viewpoint, read the book of Ester in the bible. In it, the King's (chief) wife desires an audience with the King in order to invite him to dinner, but hasn't been invited to the court. To go to the King without invitation, even for the _wife_, invites such serious risk of instant death that the wife spends an extended period ritually preparing herself before she even dares attempt it. Then keep in mind that relationship, only the king is now of much much higher rank - Bane is a god - and the visitor is of much much lower rank than a beloved wife.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 909063, member: 4937"] Well, it isn't impossible for a mortal to have a favored relationship with a deity, but such a tremendous advantage has to be handeld with care and I'd just avoid the issue by suggesting that no PC should be just chummy with a deity. One example that comes to mind is Odysseus's relationship with Athena. Odysseus was allowed to get away with things that would have got anyone else the target of divine vengence, but even Odysseus's had to be careful how far he pushed the 'Since I'm a the most cunning, charming, and fearless of heroes you can't help but like me, oh wisest and most valiant of goddesses...' thing. At the very least, the PC should hold as central of place in the mythology of the story world as Eliminster or Odysseus holds in thier own. If the PC isn't so clearly heroic and mighty as Eliminster, then I think your PC has a serious hubris issue and Bane in particular (as others have mentioned) is not going to look kindly on mortals forgetting thier place. This is also a bit of a modernity on the part of the player, because he's very much looking at the world as a society of peers working together towards a common goal. The analogy regarding the CEO is apt, because that's about as close in the modern democratic world as we get to differences in rank and priveledge, but its off by several orders of magnitude. For a better analogy and a more ancient viewpoint, read the book of Ester in the bible. In it, the King's (chief) wife desires an audience with the King in order to invite him to dinner, but hasn't been invited to the court. To go to the King without invitation, even for the _wife_, invites such serious risk of instant death that the wife spends an extended period ritually preparing herself before she even dares attempt it. Then keep in mind that relationship, only the king is now of much much higher rank - Bane is a god - and the visitor is of much much lower rank than a beloved wife. [/QUOTE]
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