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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kurotowa" data-source="post: 9166790" data-attributes="member: 27957">That's an interesting take on where Spelljammer failed, and I want to chew on it a little.Van Richten's Guide made significant changes by dissolving the Domains back into individual realms, but I at least feel like the book put in the effort to clearly establish how the new normal worked. All the lore, both old and new, got worked over to fit with it. From the sound of it, Planescape is at the other end with respect to the old lore, where the most significant change was just to roll back the Faction War stuff. So all the classic Planescape elements they brought forward fit in just fine.Meanwhile, Spelljammer made sweeping changes to fundamental elements of the setting, but didn't put in the work to rectify those with the rest of the legacy elements. The entirely different cosmology should have far reaching knock on effects, but those were mostly ignored in favor of just blindly porting forward familiar bits. It's like the problem that Eberron has where the original release so deeply incorporated 3e mechanics, that the 4e and 5e versions have struggled to fully update and incorporate the different assumptions. Only more so.Ravenloft made a lot of changes, but did the work to make the old and new pieces fit together. Planescape made relatively few changes, so not a lot of work was needed. Spelljammer made massive changes, but didn't do the work and the pieces don't fit together very well at all. Does that sound like a reasonable take to anyone else?</blockquote>

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