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<blockquote data-quote="Pants" data-source="post: 1375426" data-attributes="member: 8849"><p>So, in theory, <em>Die, Vecna Die</em> should have the Greyhawk, Ravenloft, and PlaneScape names on it just so that it's relevent to those worlds? Seems nitpicky to me.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>I haven't read the books, so no comment.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Who says it isn't canon? Did TSR and WotC come out and say 'IGNORE THE EVENTS OF DIE VECNA DIE?' Not that I know of.</p><p></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>As it is, it's really only a big, nice informative fansite.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>He gained godhood after breaking into Sigil. He found a loophole and exploited it. Go Vecna. Although, whether the Lady would fix the loophole is up to the DM as there is nothing that addresses this issue that has been printed.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Unless you gain your godhood AFTER you enter into Sigil, then yes it is. Alternatively, if you force the Lady to use her full power and Sigil is destroyed, then that is also a canonical way of achieving the same effect. Sigil = gone. </strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>That's because there were no more PS products being published at the time. The Manual of the Planes mentions nothing of the events in Die Vecna Die, it also fails to mention a lot of other details that made PS so distinctive. Does that mean that all of those little ideas and rumors in PS are not 'canon' anymore? Of course not.</strong></p><p><strong>And geez, for the amount of garbage that WotC gets for ignoring little pieces of canon, you'd think ignoring an entire module would result in a spontaneous combustion of the thread. But nope... doesn't happen.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>A more appropriate phrase would say that it 'bended canon.'</strong></p><p><strong>In Planescape, very little is known about the Lady at all. There are rumors, yes? But whenever a new product comes along and seems to offer a new insight into something, it gets thrown into 'the this isn't canon' category.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>If it's been printed by the parent company, it's canon.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Agreed. But this discussion seems to have evolved into a 'what makes canon canon?' discussion.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pants, post: 1375426, member: 8849"] So, in theory, [i]Die, Vecna Die[/i] should have the Greyhawk, Ravenloft, and PlaneScape names on it just so that it's relevent to those worlds? Seems nitpicky to me. I haven't read the books, so no comment. Who says it isn't canon? Did TSR and WotC come out and say 'IGNORE THE EVENTS OF DIE VECNA DIE?' Not that I know of. [b] As it is, it's really only a big, nice informative fansite. He gained godhood after breaking into Sigil. He found a loophole and exploited it. Go Vecna. Although, whether the Lady would fix the loophole is up to the DM as there is nothing that addresses this issue that has been printed. Unless you gain your godhood AFTER you enter into Sigil, then yes it is. Alternatively, if you force the Lady to use her full power and Sigil is destroyed, then that is also a canonical way of achieving the same effect. Sigil = gone. That's because there were no more PS products being published at the time. The Manual of the Planes mentions nothing of the events in Die Vecna Die, it also fails to mention a lot of other details that made PS so distinctive. Does that mean that all of those little ideas and rumors in PS are not 'canon' anymore? Of course not. And geez, for the amount of garbage that WotC gets for ignoring little pieces of canon, you'd think ignoring an entire module would result in a spontaneous combustion of the thread. But nope... doesn't happen. A more appropriate phrase would say that it 'bended canon.' In Planescape, very little is known about the Lady at all. There are rumors, yes? But whenever a new product comes along and seems to offer a new insight into something, it gets thrown into 'the this isn't canon' category. If it's been printed by the parent company, it's canon. Agreed. But this discussion seems to have evolved into a 'what makes canon canon?' discussion.[/b] [/QUOTE]
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