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<blockquote data-quote="Shardstone" data-source="post: 9074335" data-attributes="member: 6807784">Another fun take on the Lady of Pain is leaning even harder into the idea of her being a phenomenon, not a definable creature. You could paint the Lady of Pain something like a &quot;natural formation&quot; in Sigil, and she herself is a reflection of the plane's order. So long as the Lady of Pain exists, Sigil exists, and without her, Sigil is destroyed/deleted. With this idea, the Lady of Pain is essentially no different then fire in the Plane of Fire, herself being Sigil's version of a cloud or mountain, only as a metaphysical being and thus something appearing to have sentience. She might even function similarly to an AI, responding in pre-programmed but evolving ways to various stimulus, but not be actually alive, similar to a virus. I like the idea of Sigil's version of &quot;geography&quot; expanding to include metaphysical anomalies like the planar portals everywhere, the torus that forms the city, the weird nature of the Outlands, and even the Lady of Pain herself. You could take a kind of weird perception spin on it too, saying that trying to understand Sigil with your senses, whatever you are, always involves perceiving this Lady of Pain, herself no different from the sky, the rocks, the air of the place. I'm happy we never get any real information on her and just these weird clues that you can deconstruct some wild stuff from. Much like the Raven Queen. I'd like it if WotC focused on creating more mysterious characters like these that hold almighty sway in their plane but in a way that still encourages conflict and storytelling.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shardstone, post: 9074335, member: 6807784"] Another fun take on the Lady of Pain is leaning even harder into the idea of her being a phenomenon, not a definable creature. You could paint the Lady of Pain something like a "natural formation" in Sigil, and she herself is a reflection of the plane's order. So long as the Lady of Pain exists, Sigil exists, and without her, Sigil is destroyed/deleted. With this idea, the Lady of Pain is essentially no different then fire in the Plane of Fire, herself being Sigil's version of a cloud or mountain, only as a metaphysical being and thus something appearing to have sentience. She might even function similarly to an AI, responding in pre-programmed but evolving ways to various stimulus, but not be actually alive, similar to a virus. I like the idea of Sigil's version of "geography" expanding to include metaphysical anomalies like the planar portals everywhere, the torus that forms the city, the weird nature of the Outlands, and even the Lady of Pain herself. You could take a kind of weird perception spin on it too, saying that trying to understand Sigil with your senses, whatever you are, always involves perceiving this Lady of Pain, herself no different from the sky, the rocks, the air of the place. I'm happy we never get any real information on her and just these weird clues that you can deconstruct some wild stuff from. Much like the Raven Queen. I'd like it if WotC focused on creating more mysterious characters like these that hold almighty sway in their plane but in a way that still encourages conflict and storytelling. [/QUOTE]

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