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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 9075848" data-attributes="member: 2067">I think this is what I disagree with. Angels fall, demons atone, alignments are metaphysical energies, creatures make choices, gods make life in their own image. You don't have to overcome a plane to make a species. (Also worth noting that Primus FAILED in his mission - the order he created might not be Perfect Chaos, but it's still Chaotic, and given its reproduction, it spreads that chaos to things that would otherwise not be chaos). IDK, part of what I like about the Slaadi - what I find very Planescape about them - is that they aren't perfect exemplars of Chaos. PS at its best is about challenging the idea of alignment as a metaphysical construct, about finding the evil in good and the chaos in order. Primus wanted to create more order and failed, but in a way that produced a critter that's weirdly ordered in the way it is chaotic. A more &quot;logical&quot; creature of Limbo would be too symmetrical. Instead, we got color-coded frog-things. It's not the way an intelligent designer would design things which fits, in a weird way. So I'm OK with the story that they're a failed experiment of a hubristic entity attempting to force order on the multiverse, and with them having this weird perversion of order within them, too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 9075848, member: 2067"] I think this is what I disagree with. Angels fall, demons atone, alignments are metaphysical energies, creatures make choices, gods make life in their own image. You don't have to overcome a plane to make a species. (Also worth noting that Primus FAILED in his mission - the order he created might not be Perfect Chaos, but it's still Chaotic, and given its reproduction, it spreads that chaos to things that would otherwise not be chaos). IDK, part of what I like about the Slaadi - what I find [I]very Planescape [/I]about them - is that they aren't perfect exemplars of Chaos. PS at its best is about challenging the idea of alignment as a metaphysical construct, about finding the evil in good and the chaos in order. Primus wanted to create more order and failed, but in a way that produced a critter that's weirdly ordered in the way it is chaotic. A more "logical" creature of Limbo would be too symmetrical. Instead, we got color-coded frog-things. It's not the way an intelligent designer would design things which [I]fits[/I], in a weird way. So I'm OK with the story that they're a failed experiment of a hubristic entity attempting to force order on the multiverse, and with them having this weird perversion of order within them, too. [/QUOTE]

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