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<blockquote data-quote="BB Shockwave" data-source="post: 9094794" data-attributes="member: 6799257"><p>If you grow up with this life cycle - being born this way, yourself - and spend your life within your own species who never question their basic biology - then really, how are you evil? For you, this is the way of life and you have never seen anything else. Plus, Red and Blue Slaadi are not supremely intelligent, nor can they cast spells. The Green and higher level ones actually do not reproduce at all, so to them this isn't something they need to deal with (in most respect they are really considered a different species than Reds and Blues). </p><p>Compare this to say, ritualistic/etc cannibalism or straight up eating sapient species. The Lizardfolk eat both their own people's corpses, as well as fallen foes. The Thri-Kreen, when they are starving, will go out and hunt Humans or Elves. Neither species is considered evil, despite that. (I think Thri-Kreen are Chaotic Neutral, like Slaadi).</p><p></p><p></p><p>But I assume the description of Limbo and what you can find there was NOT in any previous core book , no? So unless you bought Planes of Chaos, you would not think to make an adventure there. I do not recall basic 2E AD&D doing a Manual of the Planes, only 1E AD&D had that. For 2E this was AFAIk the first time it was described in detail.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That and the Sigil/Outlands gazetteer are my main interest too. So far, from product listing and artwork, we know around 50 monsters are in this book. These are the ones mentioned or seen:</p><p>-Hierarch Modrons (no idea if all 10 types including Primus, or just a few, the Decaton is definitely in there as we have art of it on the cover)</p><p>-Planar Incarnates (<a href="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/incarnat/" target="_blank">Incarnate - Complete Compendium</a>)</p><p>-Time Dragons</p><p>-Gehreleths / Demodands (all 3 types, Farastu, Kelubar, Shator)</p><p>-Bariaur</p><p>-Dabus</p><p>-Sunfly (<a href="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/sunfly/" target="_blank">Sunfly - Complete Compendium</a>)</p><p>-Nic'Epona (<a href="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/nicepona/" target="_blank">Nic'Epona - Complete Compendium</a>)</p><p>-Parai (<a href="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/parai/" target="_blank">Parai - Complete Compendium</a>)</p><p>-Eater of Knowledge (<a href="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/eaofknow/" target="_blank">Eater of Knowledge - Complete Compendium</a>)</p><p>-Some sort of unindentified robot-like construct, possibly an Inevitable</p><p>-Some sort of anthropomorph mouse, possibly a Musteval Guardinal (<a href="https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Musteval" target="_blank">Musteval</a>) (Still dunno why they called a mouse-like Guardinal a Musteval, when Mustelidae is the family of weasels, stoats, ferrets, etc... Should have been called Rodental or Mureal. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait, Cthulhu crew? I thought most of those lovecraftian gods did not exist in D&D. Even though they are in public domain (and Paizo uses them a lot due to this).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, the artist confirmed it on Twitter and even shared the artwork.</p><p>[ATTACH]292386[/ATTACH]</p><p>[MEDIA=twitter]1682088880755843082[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BB Shockwave, post: 9094794, member: 6799257"] If you grow up with this life cycle - being born this way, yourself - and spend your life within your own species who never question their basic biology - then really, how are you evil? For you, this is the way of life and you have never seen anything else. Plus, Red and Blue Slaadi are not supremely intelligent, nor can they cast spells. The Green and higher level ones actually do not reproduce at all, so to them this isn't something they need to deal with (in most respect they are really considered a different species than Reds and Blues). Compare this to say, ritualistic/etc cannibalism or straight up eating sapient species. The Lizardfolk eat both their own people's corpses, as well as fallen foes. The Thri-Kreen, when they are starving, will go out and hunt Humans or Elves. Neither species is considered evil, despite that. (I think Thri-Kreen are Chaotic Neutral, like Slaadi). But I assume the description of Limbo and what you can find there was NOT in any previous core book , no? So unless you bought Planes of Chaos, you would not think to make an adventure there. I do not recall basic 2E AD&D doing a Manual of the Planes, only 1E AD&D had that. For 2E this was AFAIk the first time it was described in detail. That and the Sigil/Outlands gazetteer are my main interest too. So far, from product listing and artwork, we know around 50 monsters are in this book. These are the ones mentioned or seen: -Hierarch Modrons (no idea if all 10 types including Primus, or just a few, the Decaton is definitely in there as we have art of it on the cover) -Planar Incarnates ([URL="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/incarnat/"]Incarnate - Complete Compendium[/URL]) -Time Dragons -Gehreleths / Demodands (all 3 types, Farastu, Kelubar, Shator) -Bariaur -Dabus -Sunfly ([URL="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/sunfly/"]Sunfly - Complete Compendium[/URL]) -Nic'Epona ([URL="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/nicepona/"]Nic'Epona - Complete Compendium[/URL]) -Parai ([URL="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/parai/"]Parai - Complete Compendium[/URL]) -Eater of Knowledge ([URL="https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/eaofknow/"]Eater of Knowledge - Complete Compendium[/URL]) -Some sort of unindentified robot-like construct, possibly an Inevitable -Some sort of anthropomorph mouse, possibly a Musteval Guardinal ([URL="https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Musteval"]Musteval[/URL]) (Still dunno why they called a mouse-like Guardinal a Musteval, when Mustelidae is the family of weasels, stoats, ferrets, etc... Should have been called Rodental or Mureal. :P) Wait, Cthulhu crew? I thought most of those lovecraftian gods did not exist in D&D. Even though they are in public domain (and Paizo uses them a lot due to this). Actually, the artist confirmed it on Twitter and even shared the artwork. [ATTACH]292386[/ATTACH] [MEDIA=twitter]1682088880755843082[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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